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Post by Lou on Aug 5, 2008 22:14:41 GMT -5
Hello Sleeper ! If the Renogades are always up to no good then why don't they appear to the public and casue kaos around the globe by coming forward? Because they get whacked if they do, it happens
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Post by Lou on Aug 5, 2008 22:19:02 GMT -5
Thanks for the memo Sleeper. You might think about sending it a couple of days before I open my big mouth. Sorry about that John, Timmy, that new guy muffed it. ;D
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Post by Lou on Aug 5, 2008 22:26:05 GMT -5
Hey John! Good to see you. I hope you are well. I have been wanting to ask about this and now that John is here there couldn't be a better time. Sleeper I know Milton is keeping this bag of chips all to himself but come on... A blind man could see that the cat is out of the bag on the moon...what is this thing? It's a reflection of Venus off of NASAs top secret moon resort for VIPs. Or maybe it's swamp gas, yeah that's it, swamp gas
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Post by Lou on Aug 5, 2008 22:34:02 GMT -5
Sleeper, Why do souls get to many lives? Kind of the same reason it takes 12, 16, or more years for an education Because the higher ups like us Yes They have with some souls, we are the leftovers, and the only way out is up, or down.
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Post by Lou on Aug 5, 2008 22:46:09 GMT -5
Hey Sleeper Suffering. What the hell is that? It seems to be thought generated and leftover stuff.... Suffering, some people need more of it than others. Much of it is despair caused by our desire to hold on to grudges. Carrying a chip on the shoulder is painful but I dare you to knock it off. Our tude manifests into physical suffering even years after we got over it. Most don't know that
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Post by Lou on Aug 5, 2008 23:00:59 GMT -5
Hey Sleeper Will Milton or you, explain how to handle or get over this leftover junk our minds seem to create out of these messy stories? Even as we clean up our act the stuff that is in the tube must play out. We are forgiven our sin, but not the crime, we still do the time. It's Karma, the boomerang affect. Sometimes the slap behind the head is slow in coming, but once in play it will come. No It don't feel like it for those going through it. All illness is not evil deeds, there are other things going on too, but its a long story so I will end it here.
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Post by lostsoul on Aug 5, 2008 23:23:37 GMT -5
Dear Lou, Have been reading the thread on ATS, am still on page 70 of 110 ! But it has been wonderful and very thought-provoking. Someone mentioned Bob Lazar to me, his youtubes led me to John Lear, and Lear mentioned you (on Coast2coast). It will take me a bit to frame the questions I have -- spiritual ones -- so I will start with something I can ask quickly.
Since almost birth (or earliest memories), I have been terrified by 2 things.
1. outer space -- images (or even descriptions) of planets frighten me. Seeing some space like effect in a movie or documentary would give me sleepless nights. On one page of the ATS thread, you mentioned that if someone was to see Saturn from one of its moons he could have a heart attack --- that's me. Ironically, I grew up to become a big sci-fi fan (ACC and Asimov), loved astronomy at an early age, the fear diminished (i got used to photos and sci-fi movies), but the fear is *still* there.
2. large water bodies, or planets covered with water. Even the term "watery planet"/"blue planet" frightens me. It is to this day, tough for me to shut my eyes for fear of images of watery planets. ironically i later learned to swim, have no issues there, but the mental fear remains.
I am 40 now. After reading the ATS thread, I began to wonder what this fear could be. Thanks and best wishes.
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Post by lostsoul on Aug 6, 2008 1:00:55 GMT -5
Hi Sleeper, In my previous message (#66), i forgot to mention that to this day I have dreams in which i see something happening in the sky (any kind of phenomenon), and I am totally terrified, I am screaming, and i wake up, and I am afraid of going back to sleep. It is a sort of "end of the world" terror. It is like the *worst* torture that could happen to me.
Thankfully these dreams don't happen too often.
(Happenings could be lights in the dark sky, a larger than normal sun, hundreds of tiny spaceships going across the dark sky etc).
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Post by Eevee on Aug 6, 2008 1:05:09 GMT -5
Hi Sleeper, Thanks Sleeper, i wasn't complaining, i just needed some reassurance i think. Hurting someone you love, even if ultimately it is for their own good is difficult. I know it's only a little step and there are many more to take, but it is a step in the right direction! This is a quote from message board 1: I have to be honest sleeper, and say that i have come quite close to my breaking point several times, and for various reasons, but i am still here. You cannot get rid of me that easily. / ;D Oh, btw sleeper i just had to say that i have never felt like attacking you ever, i have been super annoyed, but i have also been LMAO! ;D Edit button! Double yay!
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Post by lohiaaditya on Aug 6, 2008 2:30:58 GMT -5
Thankx Lou for the answer.
I hope people arent thinking that I am a big fan of what Hitler did, but I just want to fairly present what he was, instead of just knowing him as a synonym of evil I thought it was important that we shed light on the 'other side of Hitler'.
Nevertheless, welcome to the forum John.
I wonder, what made you give yourself the nickname 'sleeper'? really.LOL.
Another curious question, by when do you think that we'll have flying cars if not that then when will the mode of transportation change for the majority? (By when I just mean approx)
Thankx and have fun.
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Post by Alex^Dj^ on Aug 6, 2008 3:35:16 GMT -5
Hi sleeper..I have a question It is true that renegades ET are sometimes Kill (well body only) sometimes they end up here on earth (send) to be born (human) so they can learn too what they did and in a way to pay for what they were doing?? (i meann not few..but many of them) ..if this is so..that means that a lot of us one time or another were on the "bad side"..i mean not bad but in the wrong path??. thanx sleeper and hope to see you soon
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Post by Bear on Aug 6, 2008 5:59:57 GMT -5
Hi sleeper, selective quoting... Check. Check. They seem to like me. (I get cheered when I walk into a room of people I know.. seriously!) . A guy at work said to me the other day "you know what I like about you, you're the first person I've seen smiling in two weeks and the only one I never hear moaning in this sh*thole". Not to blow smoke up you know where, but this attitude has taken me years to be able to uphold in most situations. It is hard work at first but easy when you get used to it and *think* you understand what it's all about. I have to give some credit to you for that. ;D *snip* No, not really. Family and close friends would say yes, others don't say but I would like to think so. They seem to. I'm very easy to talk to apparently. I do! I have worked on curtailing my ego and realize there is a fine line to arrogance. I am aware of these traits and make effort to not be an ass. I'm the guy that doesn't have nightmares, that dreams of really cool places I assume are other planets but never had real life "experiences" which I wish was different. I always tried to do the right thing from very young, I try to help if I can. I never got into any wrong crowd or any illegal activity, never harmed another, even animals. I know I'm on the right path, I simply have no clue how much further I have to go or how many more times I need to be on this level. People who have these profound experiences still have baggage and done some things they aren't proud of. Even you had the wrong crowd thing when you were young, I never even had any of that, yet I seem to miss out on the experiences. (envy?). Maybe a little, but I will be patient. It seems from what you say, I may get a decent break before coming back, I will settle for that. Thank you for your insight sleeper. Always appreciated. PS, Can I book a ride on the next trip. John Lear also owes me a seat on his trip to the moon from 2 years ago.. when he gets it sorted, I want in on that too. And I'm not eating crow.
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Post by purduegrad05 on Aug 6, 2008 7:48:24 GMT -5
Hey Sleeper,
Was the world lied to when they said that Hitler killed himself in his bunker in Berlin?? Sorry if this is a repeat question but I wanted to post this question before I got into the rest of this thread. Just from what I have read and from other interviews given by certain people, they say that he didn't kill himself in that bunker, along with some of his associates. I guess somehow they got away and went to various South American countries. Is there any truth in all this?? It wouldn't surprise me if that really happened given the amount of secrecy in this world but I was just curious.
Also, just got your latest book in the mail yesterday. I'm looking forward to reading it. Thanks Sleeper.
Purduegrad05
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Post by Lou on Aug 6, 2008 7:55:33 GMT -5
Dear Lou, Have been reading the thread on ATS, am still on page 70 of 110 ! But it has been wonderful and very thought-provoking. Someone mentioned Bob Lazar to me, his youtubes led me to John Lear, and Lear mentioned you (on Coast2coast). It will take me a bit to frame the questions I have -- spiritual ones -- so I will start with something I can ask quickly. Since almost birth (or earliest memories), I have been terrified by 2 things. 1. outer space -- images (or even descriptions) of planets frighten me. Seeing some space like effect in a movie or documentary would give me sleepless nights. On one page of the ATS thread, you mentioned that if someone was to see Saturn from one of its moons he could have a heart attack --- that's me. Ironically, I grew up to become a big sci-fi fan (ACC and Asimov), loved astronomy at an early age, the fear diminished (i got used to photos and sci-fi movies), but the fear is *still* there. 2. large water bodies, or planets covered with water. Even the term "watery planet"/"blue planet" frightens me. It is to this day, tough for me to shut my eyes for fear of images of watery planets. ironically i later learned to swim, have no issues there, but the mental fear remains. I am 40 now. After reading the ATS thread, I began to wonder what this fear could be. Thanks and best wishes. Hello soul Phobias follow us, stalk us from life to life until we confront them, but so do certain traumatic memories. However not all of our fears belong to the past, nor to us necessarily. Some things bugging us now are future trials that we are allowed to become aware of. Like the butterflies we get before a job interview or starting a new grade at school Still, many of the horrors we see and feel will never touch us, some people perhaps you, are simply picking up stray events taking place in the cosmos every second, like radio and television signals. Mediums tune into these magnetic disturbances and so do all humans to one degree or other. For most this is very low bandwidth and hardly detectable. None of it is worth one second of concern as is true with most things that we will encounter in life. Worryworts waste time and energy and most importantly they lose points. So worry about losing points ;D
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Post by Lou on Aug 6, 2008 8:12:32 GMT -5
Hi Sleeper, In my previous message (#66), i forgot to mention that to this day I have dreams in which i see something happening in the sky (any kind of phenomenon), and I am totally terrified, I am screaming, and i wake up, and I am afraid of going back to sleep. It is a sort of "end of the world" terror. It is like the *worst* torture that could happen to me. Next time you have such dreams take it as a gift and order up some mental popcorn. Enjoy the movie because that is all it is for you. The event may be real, but you are not in the event, if you are your are like superman and will not be harmed during the "dream" state. There are people who would kill to remember such experiences! Enjoy them! Perhaps you believe you are witnessing Armageddon or the end of the world as we know it. Not going to happen anytime soon. But those things do happen around the galaxy. Sometimes we only conger them up out of fear and create our own doomsday scenario. Why not create something more pleasant instead?
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