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Post by muse on Aug 28, 2009 8:41:38 GMT -5
Hey Sleeper and All,
I think you are on to something there Izzy.
I am definitely not one of those put here for vacation....although I have had some really great stuff happen to me in this life.
It is all an illusion, and that mirror image has me watching what I think and do more often now than not--thanks to Sleeper.
Eevee, I need a whack!
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Post by noface on Aug 28, 2009 10:09:46 GMT -5
I am definitely not one of those put here for vacation....although I have had some really great stuff happen to me in this life. You must have some pretty good karma to have an evening in your honor where people come from all over to attend. I'll be happy if my mom attends my funeral. The part about absolutely everything being recorded for display at death has got me doing a bit of re-analysis as well. Sheesh!
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Post by tommyknockers on Aug 28, 2009 13:36:51 GMT -5
Well I think it was a great show. Thanks Sleeper and Mel. I would have to disagree with those that didn't find much new information. Everything that was said put a new twist and a new light on what I thought I already knew. I know I will be going back over it many times.
Now...who is gonna pick a fight with John over this did we go to the moon thing ;D
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Post by Phedre on Aug 28, 2009 16:01:56 GMT -5
Hello Everyone! Thanks Izzy for your 4 points, very valid indeed!
It is like you know something, but it is elusive, your 4 points
cleared the air for me, it is a humbling experience (good thing!).
I do wish that I could listen to Lou's interview, even have the
$15.00, but am on dial-up, it takes ages to download 5 mins.
little lone 2 hrs. Wish you all well.
Phedre
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Post by robertgoodfella on Aug 28, 2009 20:04:04 GMT -5
hey everyone!, WoW, what an Interview! only got through 45min. into it and can't finish, we'll I have to go to bed so I could pour concrete at 1:00 a.m. tonight, it's going to be a long day, I guess I'm not on vacation
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Post by Izarith on Aug 29, 2009 4:02:08 GMT -5
Guys, I usually go to extremes to get my point across. But it's not doom and gloom. So we are shitty souls, but souls nonetheless. I mean if you think about it Sleeper can't give us the answers to the test, I don't care if he said on his interview he does it's not true and he knows it. We are not looking at the test answers we are all focused on the A+ at the top of the sheet and the F- on the other sheet. Sleeper knows that only a few people will have the guts to look at the answers and on top of that he knows that just because you have the answers to the test does not mean you don't have to grab a pencil and copy the answers. Do you think ET's are so f**king stupid that Sleeper could help us cheat? There is no cheating and there is no amount of information we could get our hands on that would help us because we all ready have all the answers. You just have to look in the right place, in side yourself. You have to unravel all the lies you have made yourself believe, all the excuses until you see the true intentions of your actions. Who the f**k does that? Who sits back and sees the vile evilness of a man who takes his time to cross the street? Why does the man take extra time to cross the street with out worrying about the cars who are waiting? Is that truly any different than a man who rapes a defenceless woman? When you rush ahead of someone to get in front of him in line at the movie theater could you not see yourself crushing in his skull to steal his families food to feed you own if it came down to it? If your children were staving? We all think we are better than killers and thieves and rapists but we never take the time to see the same vileness in our lesser trivial actions. If we are better than why do we do these things that are absolutely needless? Ask yourself that, see yourself for what you are. those are the answers to the test. Then the test can begin. But don't look at it in the wrong light, Once you see how f**king easy it is for us to be bad, you begin to see that it's just as easy to be good. Trying is not a requierment, you just do it. The only thing you will learn from doing good out of fear is that you learn nothing from being good out of fear. Be strong. TA Izzy.
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Post by johnlear on Aug 29, 2009 9:10:52 GMT -5
Well I think it was a great show. Thanks Sleeper and Mel. I would have to disagree with those that didn't find much new information. Everything that was said put a new twist and a new light on what I thought I already knew. I know I will be going back over it many times. Now...who is gonna pick a fight with John over this did we go to the moon thing ;D If any Apollo crew went to the moon it wasn't in a Saturn V nor did they land from orbit in a Grumman lunar lander unless they had help. Also I want to know how Armstrong, Aldrin and Collins after being 11 days in space on their backs in a capsule managed to casually walk out of the helicopter to the deck of the Hornet 45 minutes after landing, walk down stairs barely touching the handrail, sprint across the deck and swing into the quarantine vehicle. Most other astronauts take a few hours if not days to get their balance back. And if they did go why did they fake all of the landing videos?
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Post by magii on Aug 29, 2009 9:46:34 GMT -5
There are some stuff in the interview that dont go well together
Parts about we are heading / prept for Moon & Mars ---
then the whole notion of Prison Planet earth and your not being able to leave ..
One cant go with the other ..
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Post by Azrael on Aug 29, 2009 9:55:30 GMT -5
Well I think it was a great show. Thanks Sleeper and Mel. I would have to disagree with those that didn't find much new information. Everything that was said put a new twist and a new light on what I thought I already knew. I know I will be going back over it many times. Now...who is gonna pick a fight with John over this did we go to the moon thing ;D If any Apollo crew went to the moon it wasn't in a Saturn V nor did they land from orbit in a Grumman lunar lander unless they had help. Also I want to know how Armstrong, Aldrin and Collins after being 11 days in space on their backs in a capsule managed to casually walk out of the helicopter to the deck of the Hornet 45 minutes after landing, walk down stairs barely touching the handrail, sprint across the deck and swing into the quarantine vehicle. Most other astronauts take a few hours if not days to get their balance back. And if they did go why did they fake all of the landing videos? Personally from what ive read the whole thing was done with a back door plan that the whole moon landings could be declared a hoax if Nasa needed the public to think or suspect that its a hoax if the public caught a glimpse of more then what we were supposed to see. Buzz was on the news again talking about a monolith that he saw and what it might be on the moon, the astronauts know more then what they are letting on about but its quite probable that the whole public knowledge of the landings are false.
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Post by Azrael on Aug 29, 2009 10:07:55 GMT -5
There are some stuff in the interview that dont go well together Parts about we are heading / prept for Moon & Mars --- then the whole notion of Prison Planet earth and your not being able to leave .. One cant go with the other .. Well in the interview the one thing that was mentioned was that there is maximum security on this planet and minimum security. Some of it is tied to race and some of it to country (im not racist in the least I have had relationships(some romantic hehe) with people who are not my race, this is just the politically incorrect stuff Lou tries to avoid). It doesnt take much insight to see which areas in the world are min security and which are maximum. Also there has to be the illusion of human advancement, just like we went from the dark ages to the industrial age to the modern age to what will be the next step space exploration....the illusion must be maintained, but even when we are on the moon and mars there will still be people living in huts at certain areas in the world just like there has always been.
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Post by Eevee on Aug 30, 2009 2:10:02 GMT -5
Hey Guys, I found this quote from someone whilst browsing another ufo forum which shall remain nameless last night. On the subject of sleeper - I have to admit I don't know if he's telling the truth because I didn't read/listen to most of what he said. I started reading his thread not long after it began, and at a certain point I had to stop. Not because I didn't believe him - but because something he said scared me. It shouldn't have affected me, but it did. It resonated with me for some reason I don't understand - and quite frankly I don't want to know.
I know that sounds odd. It does not sound odd to me, I think that reaction happens all the time here. Many people register here, sometimes even make a few posts and are never seen or heard of ever again. There could be many different reasons for this of course, but I think a lot of people simply cannot handle the truth, and indeed it is hard to take at times. A long time ago I was almost one of the people who ran screaming from this forum never to return LOL. Somebody talked me out of going and asked me to stay and I am really pleased that he did, however, I'm not too sure that he is. ;D To those of you asking for joyrides with Milton be careful what you wish for, it may not be quite what you think. Milton is a strange little dude who doesn't pull any punches. But he is totally cool in my book.(The trip wasn't all bad btw, but Milton is capable of some really freaky stuff, well it freaked me out lol.) To the Coffee Break Queen, get your skinny little blue butt back here, and lets go into top gear.
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Post by tommyknockers on Aug 30, 2009 8:47:26 GMT -5
Veritas Show Part 2 00:01:25 Mel: Did we go to the moon? Lou: Yes we did. Mel: I am referring to Apollo, not the secret space program. Lou: Right. Apollo did go to the moon. July 1969. It was all real. 00:01:40
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Post by jasonrocksteady on Aug 30, 2009 8:49:44 GMT -5
Hey John, I was looking for pitures of the command module for the Saturn v and couldn't find much in google images.Were the 3 seated side by side with no other room to move? They got to skip and leap around the moon apart from the 11 short days on their backs and they seemed mobile and full of balance at the half way point of the journey didnt they? Thx for the advice TK ;D and a big wow to Eevee's above post
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Post by Izarith on Aug 30, 2009 15:34:37 GMT -5
You know Tommy, There is something fishy about what Sleeper refers to as real when it comes to human achievements. On the one hand every thing on this planet is a Hollywood prop filled show, we need the illusion of this movie to be fully maintained. And yet the lunar landing 1969 was real? Sleeper said that on the moon there are things possibly souls, machinery or beings that are being monitored. The only reason I can think of for having to monitor something on the moon is because you don't want it on Earth. We have I'm guessing long, long before any space exploration on our part humans going to the moon for what ever reason with ET tech. So what I'm guessing Sleeper does not want us to know is the Apollo 1969 was as real as it gets for us. I mean we went up there with nothing more than a tin gold and silver coated can some kevlar and glass all thought out and made by the best minds with a high school education and technology more inferior than the oldest cell phone any of us have, and your going to tell me Russia, China, India or even Mexico or Zimbabwe for that matter can't do the same? Like I said smells fishy to me. Izzy.
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Post by tommyknockers on Aug 30, 2009 19:58:37 GMT -5
I agree Iz. I am no Apollo hugger. I am actually surprised Sleeper took such a black and white position on it. Everything NASA touches smells like 2 day old trout.
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