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Post by bob on Oct 9, 2009 2:34:52 GMT -5
Hiya Friends!
Some interesting and substantial research on our experience "between lives" from a well-regarded therapist in the field of hypno-regression that I came across today:
I'm ordering his two books (used, they run about $5 on the internet), to further examine the studies he conducted, but from what I've gleaned so far, it bears a lot of resonance to my own experience, as well as that of others I know first hand, and also coincides quite a bit with Lou's take on the subject (though no specific mention of ET per se).
I particularly appreciated the way he described (think it was in the 3rd or 4th of the 5 videos) the kind of schooling I referred to in a previous thread, and was reminded of Eevee's inquiry in that regard.
Blessings!
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Post by Starlight on Oct 9, 2009 9:11:45 GMT -5
Hi Bob,
yes I've watched this some time ago. I had forgotten about it. Good idea to post. Maybe if Lou has the time to listen he may like to comment. The things he says do ring true to me. I think I found a link to this from the ATS board. He seems very genuine as well.
Stella.
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Post by bob on Oct 9, 2009 13:39:07 GMT -5
Hi Bob, yes I've watched this some time ago. I had forgotten about it. Good idea to post. Maybe if Lou has the time to listen he may like to comment. The things he says do ring true to me. I think I found a link to this from the ATS board. He seems very genuine as well. Stella. Hiya Stella! Here's a link of some discussion at Open Minds Forum where I came across Michael's work: lucianarchy.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=PSI&action=display&thread=6100Blessings!
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Post by noface on Oct 9, 2009 16:22:50 GMT -5
Hiya Friends! Some interesting and substantial research on our experience "between lives" from a well-regarded therapist in the field of hypno-regression that I came across today: I'm ordering his two books (used, they run about $5 on the internet), to further examine the studies he conducted, but from what I've gleaned so far, it bears a lot of resonance to my own experience, as well as that of others I know first hand, and also coincides quite a bit with Lou's take on the subject (though no specific mention of ET per se). I particularly appreciated the way he described (think it was in the 3rd or 4th of the 5 videos) the kind of schooling I referred to in a previous thread, and was reminded of Eevee's inquiry in that regard. Blessings! Hi Bob, Funny enough, I watched that a few months ago.
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Post by bob on Oct 9, 2009 17:13:36 GMT -5
Hiya Noface! Hehe, maybe we're in the same soul group! In any case, I was looking at Newton's homepage and found out that one of his fellow hypnotists in LBL regression practices right in our own neighborhood here, so may take a spin with him one of these days for some further field research, though I'm pretty lazy these days. dpierce.com/Blessings!
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Post by noface on Oct 9, 2009 19:17:08 GMT -5
Hiya Noface! Hehe, maybe we're in the same soul group! In any case, I was looking at Newton's homepage and found out that one of his fellow hypnotists in LBL regression practices right in our own neighborhood here, so may take a spin with him one of these days for some further field research, though I'm pretty lazy these days. dpierce.com/Blessings! Hi Bob, Yeah, I'm thoroughly convinced there is some intelligent organizing principle at work in all our lives. No doubt about that at all. Far too many "coincidences" to be a coincidence. Funny thing, I looked into doing the same thing regarding Michael Newton and found someone relatively close. I changed my mind as I don't want anyone messin' with my subconscious. I figure I'll just work it out on my own. PS: Due to our alternate belief discussion I have become re-interested in that liberating experience I had when I was a completely functioning individual, but I was free of self-reflection. Or at least, when I reflected on myself there was no conceptual identity to be found. It's sort of hilarious when you see people actually thinking they are a "Bud man", as in the beer commercials. I'm not a buddhist, but a friend on another forum pointed this out to me. He's not buddhist either but favors the Mahayana view: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nirvana#Nirvana_and_samsaraI found the 6 different paths in the Pali tradition interesting in the fact that people of different types would probably have different paths. There is no cookie cutter path because everyone is different and will discover their path to truth in their particular way according to their proclivities. ciao for now
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Post by bob on Oct 9, 2009 21:21:44 GMT -5
Hiya Noface! I took some pics today to include. In practicing together with Mazie these past few years especially, synchronicity has gradually become more the rule than the exception. As vision clears, the play is revealed each moment, which in turn serves to clear the vision. www.pbase.com/1heart/image/118110909I hear ya, Bud! Rare in the world is one who no longer even cares for experience. In him the true understanding has already dawned. ~ Ramesh Balsekarwww.pbase.com/1heart/image/118049624 That’s your actual condition even now, recognizable when attention is allowed to rest in the heart as awareness itself, rather than on the stream bubbles we mistake as our identity. www.pbase.com/1heart/image/118110236Here’s something worth considering about views: “The viewer disappears along with the view, the view follows the viewer into oblivion, for view becomes view only through the viewer, viewer becomes viewer because of the view.” -Seng-ts'an www.pbase.com/1heart/image/118110954It’s all good. www.pbase.com/1heart/image/118110366Blessings!
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Post by noface on Oct 10, 2009 3:27:33 GMT -5
That’s your actual condition even now, recognizable when attention is allowed to rest in the heart as awareness itself, rather than on the stream bubbles we mistake as our identity. ....as well as the stream bubbles we mistakenly "project" onto others as their identity. Those pictures of yours are quite artful Bob. In my business I've taken a fair amount of photos and I know the state of mind you are in effects the photos. Those are beautiful pics.
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Post by bob on Oct 10, 2009 4:13:06 GMT -5
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Post by Starlight on Oct 10, 2009 9:17:01 GMT -5
Rare in the world is one who no longer even cares for experience. In him the true understanding has already dawned. ~ Ramesh Balsekar
Wow Bob, that truly struck a chord with me. I don't think of myself as having "true understanding" at all but I have noticed in myself desires I had in the past such as travel, performing music and other things, just aren't there anymore. I thought it was just getting older. Is that what it means do you think or have I misinterpreted.
the state of mind you are in effects the photos.
I like that too Noface. I have been a very amateur photographer in the past. Wow you guys!
Now back to the past life regression thingy's. When I was Young I would have visions of what I thought was me in a past life. It all stopped at about 8 years old but those visuals are still as clear in my mind today. I have a problem with cigarettes and have tried many times & in Many ways to give them up, several times by hypnosis. I am one of those people they can't seem to hypnotize. So the last chap I went too asked if I meditated. I answered yes, so he said just do that then. Well I had what he thought was a past life regression. It wasn't that exciting. Just a visual of a house and garden and smells (I smoked a pipe in this visual). He was pretty excited after and said that had not happened to him before. I called him back weeks later to tell him I still smoked though, baa humbug. I know I just have to stop. (smoking that is) It has me by the short and curly's and bugs me totally I am addicted to something. Anyways ciao for now. Won't be posting till I get internet on In Australia.
Stella.
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Post by Lou on Oct 10, 2009 9:27:39 GMT -5
Hi Bob, yes I've watched this some time ago. I had forgotten about it. Good idea to post. Maybe if Lou has the time to listen he may like to comment. The things he says do ring true to me. I think I found a link to this from the ATS board. He seems very genuine as well. Stella. Hi Stella, People can be regressed and see some snapshots of their past life, if they are willing. Regression to find out what is going on during abductions is not so cut and dry. They often do put screen memories in those for your protection, but not always. That can be one hair raising ride for most.
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Post by Starlight on Oct 10, 2009 11:32:45 GMT -5
Hey Lou,
thanks for that note, but I have no desire for any memories of that type. I am a big scardy cat with that kind of thing and I wasn't looking for what experiences I got. I just wanted to stop smoking. I get an idea of what might be going on and that is enough for me.
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Post by bob on Oct 10, 2009 14:46:54 GMT -5
Rare in the world is one who no longer even cares for experience. In him the true understanding has already dawned. ~ Ramesh Balsekar Wow Bob, that truly struck a chord with me. I don't think of myself as having "true understanding" at all but I have noticed in myself desires I had in the past such as travel, performing music and other things, just aren't there anymore. I thought it was just getting older. Is that what it means do you think or have I misinterpreted.Hiya Stella, and I hope by the time you read this you've settled comfortably back in your nest Down Under! To your inquiry: At a certain point in life, the craving and search for experience can begin to loose its fascination. Some might say that this is a moment of Grace. We just can't seem to generate the same old ‘juice’, or enthusiasm, for that pursuit, whatever it might be (money, food, sex, power, bliss, knowledge, God, whatever) which we were told would make us happy. The old "been there, done that" cliche. Here we may fall into the simple condition of our primal boredom, doubt, discomfort, and so begin to intuit the first ‘Noble Truth’ of Buddhism – all experience is dis-satisfying. Why? It doesn’t last. We can’t hold on to it and possess it, regardless of all efforts to the contrary. Even if we could evolve into a being with a lifespan of millions of years, that experience too will eventually come to an end. Simultaneous with this sobering recognition there may arise an ‘availability’, a kind of open space that develops, in which true inspection and profound inquiry become possible. While the search was on, this was not the case. All the bets were placed, and the payoff was just around the corner. If I only do x y or z, then I will get what I really want. If I only obey life’s traffic signs, eat a special diet, have this career, marry this lover, achieve some particular state I’ve read about, then I will be happy. In other words, happiness is postponed as something in the future, thus precluding any realization of happiness now. When all such remedies and strategies are recognized as ultimately futile, true transformation can be born. When the individual really sees how the dog has been chasing the tail, a shift can occur, and in this shift the seeds of real maturation can take root. As they do, free attention to our prior and natural condition of pure awareness itself can begin to replace the old gnawing sense of insufficiency and lack which spawned the desire for endless experience, until there is no longer any motive or movement to manipulate life into being anything other than what it is. Blessings!
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Post by noface on Oct 10, 2009 21:44:36 GMT -5
the state of mind you are in effects the photos. I like that too Noface. I have been a very amateur photographer in the past. Wow you guys! I think you've noticed too. I quit smoking over a year ago now. I just made up my mind with a steel resolve. Then whenever any thought about smoking would arise I would take my steel resolve and slam the door shut on it - every single time. I would not entertain the thought of smoking even once, or what it would be like if I had a smoke now, or maybe I could have just one because of these special circumstances etc., etc., etc. And the universe is going to test you to see if you really want to quit. It will manifest situations in which you would have reached for a smoke as a comforting tool. But, you have to slam the door shut on any thought of ever smoking - period. Don't play with the tempting thoughts of it. Give it no life whatsoever and it will die - before you do from smoking. Quitting any addiction is a spiritual process because you discover "who you are" without the crutch of cigarettes. You discover what "you" are made of. What is going to fill that empty void where you used to have the identity of being a smoker? Or, can you be at peace with that empty void where you used to grab a smoke? Who are you now that you don't reach for a smoke for comfort?
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Post by Eevee on Oct 11, 2009 1:05:39 GMT -5
Hey Bob, Thank you so much for bringing up Michael Newton and his research on life between lives! I vaguely remember reading about him on ATS a while ago. I made a mental note to look out for his books because I really wanted to read them, then promptly forgot all about them lol. Anyway, yesterday I remembered that I still had an unused voucher for a bookshop from my birthday (which was months ago), so I went out and bought two of his books:Journey Of Souls and Destiny Of Souls. He also has a new book out this month. I started reading Journey Of Souls last night and could barely put it down, it's fascinating! A lot of what is said is the same as what Sleeper has been telling us all about what happens when we die etc. I would highly recommend these books. Bob, if you do go through with having a session with the therapist you found, it would be really cool if you could tell all of us here about it. Stella, I find it interesting that you've mentioned stopping smoking. I "stopped" again just over two weeks ago using nicotine patches. I have still been finding it difficult though, and have been having 2/3 a day still. I did consider having some hypnotherapy sessions to try to help me stop several years ago, but it is expensive with no guarantee that it will work. I would love to try the past life regression though. I am determined that I won't be a slave to this drug/habit any more though. Like Noface stated, I need to steel my resolve to quit for good.
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