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Post by purduegrad05 on Jan 28, 2009 19:33:40 GMT -5
John, I can't believe those pictures, they are great! Obviously there are no apparent tarmacs(sp) or landing strips so I assume they use some advanced craft for those terminals. Anyway, great pictures....these are definite pictures pre-airbrush but how did you get them?? I think you mentioned something about an archive NASA had before they did extreme airbrushing but I was curious. From the photos, it looks as though there are even more spaceports than the ones you pointed out. Am I correct?? Maybe farther west but I'm betting they are all over the moon.
Thanks for posting.
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Post by johnlear on Jan 28, 2009 23:18:22 GMT -5
John, I can't believe those pictures, they are great! Obviously there are no apparent tarmacs(sp) or landing strips so I assume they use some advanced craft for those terminals. Anyway, great pictures....these are definite pictures pre-airbrush but how did you get them?? I think you mentioned something about an archive NASA had before they did extreme airbrushing but I was curious. From the photos, it looks as though there are even more spaceports than the ones you pointed out. Am I correct?? Maybe farther west but I'm betting they are all over the moon. Thanks for posting. I got the photos out of NASA SP-20 1970. As I have pointed out many times NASA didn't seriously get into the airbrush mode until 1970 and after. Therefore photos published prior to 1970 only had cursory obscuration of obvious offensive material. NASA could not have known in the late 60's that in 1990 and after the average public would have access to imaging capabilities that could enlarge those photos with incredible detail they were publishing. A few years ago I bought every NASA publication on the shelf at Powells bookstore in Portland, Oregon. I had nothing particularly in mind but I was plain old Apollo hugger. But now I find those books were all 1970 and previous and contained many photos that had not been carefully airbrushed. If you pull those photos off of the Lunar Planetary Institute the academic research arm of NASA you find the same photos but extensively airbrushed. When we first started looking at the photos it appeared as if NASA had tried to airbrush the structures to look like the terrain. But after a time we realized that no, that is just the architectural construction. Then we wondered if the people on the moon intentionally used architectural design to make the structures partially invisible and decided no, they just used the terrain as it was. There are many craggy cliffs that look just like craggy cliffs. But if you look very close there are structures within that were obviously built. We also thought that there were no structures on the near side which was eventually proved wrong. There are cities all over the near side. And yes, you are correct there are landing areas all over the moon.
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Post by purduegrad05 on Jan 29, 2009 8:19:33 GMT -5
Curious but....offensive to whom?? ;D I wouldn't find it offensive if they didn't airbrush the pictures in the first place and people happened to find those structures. I guess I would be more curious to know what they were and why NASA was hiding them in the first place....but we all know why now anyway. Quite true, but someone out in the public would probably have been tipped off to the fact that there were structures there in the first place and then went looking. I mean, just looking at your average public, they could care less if they were there or not. All I get is the basic, "we went to the moon and defeated the Russians getting there" and if I bring up that we might not have gone I gotta duck and cover, oh well. Still, it's cool to see these pictures anyway. I had a feeling that was true, based on the pictures you showed us here. The distinct pattern of the spaceports, along with the various other structures, seems to be all over the place. It's like they built them right into the craters on the surface. Man, I need a ride up there!! ;D Thanks John
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Post by purduegrad05 on Feb 3, 2009 9:47:13 GMT -5
Hey John, I had a question about the September Clues documentary...
Toward the end of the video they show a NYC police officer being interviewed by some Italian journalists I believe and the officer talks about the pictures and, even more interesting, the clocks on the wall stopping at 8:45am. Now, that time index I believe is the first "plane impact" or first tower explosion that occurred. Why would the clocks stop at that time?? From the footage and discussion in the video, they are quite close to where the towers were located so I'm assuming some Electromagnetic pulse or EMP type device. Your thoughts on this?? This would explain the so-called cell phone outage that occurred because of alleged "network overload" which could be explained away by anyone in charge and no one would even question it. I think it's obvious that controlled demolition could not accomplish this stopping of the clocks but ya never know, perhaps they did both or the EMP was part of some exotic weaponry that helped destroy the towers. Just some of my thoughts here John, hope all is well.
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Post by jasonrocksteady on Feb 3, 2009 23:26:14 GMT -5
Hi John, I've a herald/sun "privilege"book titled man on the moon published in Melbourne Aust prior 1970.65pages with glossy a4 size photos.Theres a section on the Aussie supplements and backups-85ft diameter dish antennas at Honeysuckle Creek and its backup at Tidbinbilla, deep space tracking stations which maintained contact with the astronauts and the tracking station at Carnarvon plus landing photos etc yours free+free shipping just u2u me with a P.O box or what have you.
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Post by jasonrocksteady on Feb 4, 2009 0:40:10 GMT -5
Hi again, The Carp,Ontario,Canada case involving Bob Ochsler(spell check surname)was the subject of dispute between jritmann mod on that other site and myself,he said that"i knew Bob very well and was around when all this went down"It sounded like Bob fell on his sword believing it was authentic?jritzmann didnt attend the landing site like Bob and admitted he didnt even know Dr Macabees opinion after having dinner at a conferrence?with him recently(more than 12mths ago and said that"he will ask him about his opinion next time.jritmann is an image analyst and thought the craft was either a "truck or a helicopter"The canadian mufon report was a joke as they didnt go to the landing site where"healthy bushes just melted into the ground"(with video footage)and they dismissed the case as fake.I told him when i think of an image analyst i think of John Lear reading a playboy upsidedown lol. Thankyou.
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Post by willy42 on Feb 4, 2009 11:28:12 GMT -5
hey john, got a question for you, not too brain teasing, ;D just wanted to know how the mining was going?
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Post by johnlear on Feb 4, 2009 21:33:02 GMT -5
Hi again, The Carp,Ontario,Canada case involving Bob Ochsler(spell check surname)was the subject of dispute between jritmann mod on that other site and myself,he said that"i knew Bob very well and was around when all this went down"It sounded like Bob fell on his sword believing it was authentic?jritzmann didnt attend the landing site like Bob and admitted he didnt even know Dr Macabees opinion after having dinner at a conferrence?with him recently(more than 12mths ago and said that"he will ask him about his opinion next time.jritmann is an image analyst and thought the craft was either a "truck or a helicopter"The canadian mufon report was a joke as they didnt go to the landing site where"healthy bushes just melted into the ground"(with video footage)and they dismissed the case as fake.I told him when i think of an image analyst i think of John Lear reading a playboy upsidedown lol. Thankyou. Thanks for the input jasonundertherock. When I think of jritztman I think of his model of the wedding cake and how easy it would be to duplicate it: Ritzman should stick to making guitar picks.
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Post by dreb13 on Feb 5, 2009 9:05:54 GMT -5
John, what ever happened with the high resolution moon images that were sent to you last summer by the guy who purchased them at an estate sale?
the last I heard,
that was from project camelots blog update from July 9th 2008.
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Post by purduegrad05 on Feb 5, 2009 9:45:17 GMT -5
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Post by johnlear on Feb 10, 2009 11:29:42 GMT -5
Yes that is the one. The copy I have was a later printing.
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Post by johnlear on Feb 10, 2009 12:29:35 GMT -5
John, what ever happened with the high resolution moon images that were sent to you last summer by the guy who purchased them at an estate sale? the last I heard, that was from project camelots blog update from July 9th 2008. I would like to think we had some originals without airbrushing. It seems that they have been tampered with. The way to immediately tell if was tampered with is to look at the placement of the terminator. If it is near the middle of the photo it has been tampered with. The way it worked was NASA divided up each photo in thirds. The bottom third would be underexposed or near black. The top third would be overexposed and near white. All they then had airbrush was the middle third. Below is a LO photo that NASA never released of the farside. As a matter of fact NASA never released any farside photos that showed very much, particularly on the farside around Hertzsprung. I still can't figure out why NASA released LO-2-162H which shows a lot of stuff. I am getting LO-1-102 from my friend in Florida which shows a very large mining operation on the farside,
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Post by purduegrad05 on Feb 11, 2009 9:59:55 GMT -5
Thanks John, I should be picking that book up sometime soon.
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Post by muskybuck on Feb 16, 2009 16:00:45 GMT -5
Hi John,
First off, thanks. As a former personality myself I know it's not easy to put yourself out there for others to scrutinize.
With that said, it was great to see that Bob is back at work. (I gained this by viewing your 'tell all')
I've have an interest in ufology and all things sciences, so I've often wondered about Bob and where he wound up.
Here's my question for you John:
What are your expectations for Chandrayaan 1? (If any)
Does India have the capacity to be removed from NASA control? If that is the case then can we expect an unbiased 'view' as it were, of the moon?
I'm fascinated by your moon and planet theories. I'm not convinced but I do have an open mind. Most certainly I can admit...I've never been there to see with my own eye's and therefore cannot argue for or against with any credibility.
That's why Chandrayaan 1 is interesting to me in that it doesn't appear to be a NASA controlled operation.
Perhaps I am wrong about that conclusion but if I'm not then can we expect better resolution photo's without the arguement of tampering?
Or better yet, are you expecting anything hopeful from this mission?
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Post by spacevisitor on Feb 17, 2009 11:04:35 GMT -5
Hello John.
I have the following question of where I hope you can shine some light on. Are you willing to tell me what you know about this case and what your personal impression about it is?
It’s about the so called “Alien interview” video as claimed smuggled out of Area 51?, S4?, by a guy named “Victor” of where I assume you see it. I personally always had the feeling that it really could be real footage although I always wondered myself how on Earth did he get it out of such a super heavy guarded base then. This is the video.
A few days back, I was told that it was nothing more then a hoax and could find all the “evidence” of that on ATS. As if, that when it is claimed on ATS it’s guaranteed that it is indeed a hoax. But alright, I take a look there and found these two video's what should prove that it was indeed a hoax. But it could absolute not convince me, I got even more the strong impression that this two video's are really the real hoaxes. But maybe I get it all wrong, so I am looking forward to your answer.
Thanks in advance.
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