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Post by Lou on Aug 12, 2008 20:11:43 GMT -5
I genuinely ask you, how is Iraq war good in the long term or short term and for whom? As you said we may never know the purpose of it ever so you should probably not tell us but can you tell us or give us a hint regarding how this war in the long run be justified. Good day. No war is justifiable in human terms. We judge with our heart and with our prejudices. That is all we have to go on other than propaganda. Earth is a prison, primarily, and there is much evil in this prison planet. There are millions suffering poverty, violence, and wars every day for thousands of years, and will continue every day into the future for some time. Leaders come and go, some work for good some work for bad. Who is who is almost impossible for the average human to know. We believe what we believe for many diverse reasons and that is how we make judgments about leaders and others. How can the war in Iraq be justified in the long run? The same as all human tragedy that inflicts this planet every day, it can't be, because we are not given the real facts to be able to make those calls. The facts belong to higher beings, they call the shots. Humans carry out the orders and live with prejudices in order to make sense of this world. The evil humans know they are evil and gloat.
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Post by Lou on Aug 12, 2008 20:16:44 GMT -5
Thank you Sleeper for shedding light on some of these issues. Would you say that as from WWI, America and its allies have been the "human infantry" in ET's army against the Renegades? Hello pablo Yes Correct Yes
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Post by lohiaaditya on Aug 12, 2008 20:24:06 GMT -5
Thank you for the answer Sleeper.
Is my soul going to be punished if my views dont match with the reality, for example I thought politician A was good but he actually is bad and vice versa?
Does Bush 'consciously' converse with the ET's?
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Post by Bigguy on Aug 12, 2008 20:32:20 GMT -5
Does Bush 'consciously' converse with the ET's? Sleeper, I was wondering this as well. Also, how much do the allies know? Did Bush invade Iraq for ET's reasons? Our own? Both?
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Post by jca2008 on Aug 12, 2008 20:42:31 GMT -5
OK here is the thing. Putin has the potential to be one of those guys that every one loves. He is a great leader, wishes the best for his people. So much so that he is going to do them the favor of raising the whole countries children for them, not only that but once he really gets in power he is going to try to expand his goodness upon the world and raise all our children. He wants to change the world to his version of a better world for all. And me and mien will have to Lay down and die so he can have his better world. Foock that!! The last guy how tried that killed a lot of Jews (with the help of people who "fully supported" him of course) and almost took over the world. We all want to change the world because it's easyer than facing our own hate envy and ego!! Don't fall for people who tell you they will make the world a better place (it's the oldest trick in the A-hole book) Instead trust people who kick you in the Butt and tell you to make your own life. Read the Manifesto, see for your self what Good people like Putin want to turn the world into. A world with out lies, with out history, without families, without struggle. A world where people who want to choose there own path in life can't. I don't want to be part of the Borg, I'm a Double-d**ned Klingon!! [/color] [/quote] Izarith, Our Intentions may be great however, it's the means by which we achieve the things we want that makes the greater difference.
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Post by jca2008 on Aug 12, 2008 20:46:36 GMT -5
You write and support your thoughts very well. We can always learn from the way we think.
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Post by Lou on Aug 12, 2008 22:50:53 GMT -5
Thank you for the answer Sleeper. Is my soul going to be punished if my views dont match with the reality, for example I thought politician A was good but he actually is bad and vice versa? We share a portion of the blame with those we support. We give power to those we support. Hitler, Stalin and many other monsters were given power by those who supported them We cannot blindly support anyone otherwise tyrants will rule over us. No
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Post by Lou on Aug 12, 2008 22:54:58 GMT -5
Does Bush 'consciously' converse with the ET's? Sleeper, I was wondering this as well. Not consciously Little to nothing ET
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Post by Izarith on Aug 13, 2008 5:59:56 GMT -5
Izarith, Our Intentions may be great however, it's the means by which we achieve the things we want that makes the greater difference. Very true Jca, ;D
But it helps to understand that when it comes to politics we are all insane. And our choices are small and lade out for us like bait. We all support one agenda to spite another. If we don't we get lost not knowing what we want.
I have my political views but I'm learning to keep them to myself.
I like being lost in the woods, it's much more peaceful.
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Post by purduegrad05 on Aug 13, 2008 7:18:29 GMT -5
Hey Sleeper,
Can you elaborate more on the ET Renegade goals?? What could they possibly want with human trivial needs on this planet??
Am I correct in assuming that they meddle in our affairs because they can't move up very high with the other good ET entities?? If there is a very high integrity ladder to climb up for the good guys then why isn't there an equally high ladder(or hierarchy) for those evil renegades to be on par with the good ET's?? It would seem that being forced onto a planet like this for a "higher" ET renegade is punishment enough.
Last question....Were our leaders given knowledge in advance that 9/11 was going to happen?? It would seem that some were kept out of the loop and told to "play along" with all of it. I only ask this because if 9/11 was not carried out by humans, but by ET, then we had to know about it to come up with a story for the masses to actually believe in to carry out this bogus "war on terror" and all that. Thanks again Sleep.
Purduegrad05
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Post by Lou on Aug 13, 2008 9:24:26 GMT -5
Hey Sleeper, Can you elaborate more on the ET Renegade goals?? What could they possibly want with human trivial needs on this planet?? They don't have many places to hide out, or hang out. They are attracted to human misery like flies to dung. Because they are nothing but dung themselves they serve a purpose. Those humans who insist on keeping hate alive for their own selfish reasons, like suicide bombers and those who recruit and support them attract these evil flies. These evil flies are infesting many areas of the planet and they need to be swatted now and then to keep their numbers down. As we know flies leave their larva in dead bodies, which eat the bodies. So they do serve a purpose. Rotten and dead portions of human hatred, body and soul, are eaten by these maggots They do it because they are maggots Maggots are not needed at higher levels For them this is heaven, that's why they like it here A few were The war is not bogus, horrendous it certainly is.
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Post by lohiaaditya on Aug 13, 2008 11:23:06 GMT -5
Thank you for the answer Sleeper. Is my soul going to be punished if my views dont match with the reality, for example I thought politician A was good but he actually is bad and vice versa? We share a portion of the blame with those we support. We give power to those we support. Hitler, Stalin and many other monsters were given power by those who supported them We cannot blindly support anyone otherwise tyrants will rule over us. No Hi Sleeper, I probably didnt frame my first question well. Lets say for example- The leader of our country, X, has given me 10$. Ofcourse I believe that he wants the good of me and that is why he gave that to me, but the reality might be that by giving the 10$ he was probably trying to addict me to something and basically did so with an evil mind. Now the thing is I didnt know and I dont know that he did that with an evil I just look at the 10$ and go home happy and then vote for him, eventually supporting him. So now do I deserve to share his blame on my soul because I didnt know what his intentions were, I only thought that he was genuinely being good by giving a poor man 10$, I never knew that he was being selfish. So do I get the blame for it? Lol I am getting worried as I have realized over the past few months that politics is more confusing than anything I have ever known. Everybody has their reasons that they think is good, but maybe they dont realize that they are morally wrong in some cases, never the less it is extremely confusing and so I am trying to curb making judgements.
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Post by Griffin on Aug 13, 2008 14:51:27 GMT -5
Trust me lohiaaditya, figuring out politics is one of the most difficult things we can do while in this rock! Everybody has an agenda and things are hardly ever what they seem.
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Post by mulatto88 on Aug 13, 2008 15:33:39 GMT -5
Trust me lohiaaditya, figuring out politics is one of the most difficult things we can do while in this rock! Everybody has an agenda and things are hardly ever what they seem. Your absolutely right! All humans have their own views, so we'll never fully agree.
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Post by muse on Aug 13, 2008 17:25:36 GMT -5
Hey All,
Sleeper has, over the past few years, indicated that politicians of today's sound bite ilk are to be watched carefully.
I turned off the TV two years ago. Watch movies and isten to the radio news in the AM for about a minute...it is always the same.....Bush sucks, Dem v Rep stuff, Bimbo alert and earth catastrophes....
Ron Paul...HA HA HA,,,,insane, laughable, OMG!!!! only saw a five minute youtube clip about 8 mos. ago,,,he was dead right and honest--will the main stream media allow that?
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