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Post by kristen on Aug 17, 2008 9:02:43 GMT -5
First off I want to say that Sleeper you have made a believer out of me and I have read both of your books and all of your past threads on ATS. I am convinced that what you say comes from real experiences with extraterrestrials.
Now I am very concerned about my family and have an important question.
Are these evil entities or renegades that you talk about behind any of our world religions?
If so are there certain rituals that they can have the members of these religions perform that give them access to their souls after this lifetime? In other words could there be people on this planet worshiping in some religion and performing rituals thinking what they are doing is good when in fact they are being deceived and these evil entities can take control or possession of their spirits after this life because of the rituals they are performing?
Do these evil entities or renegade ET’s have power over man to steal their soul kind of like the way we look at Satan and hell? Could there be some evil renegade entities that are strictly after our souls so they can basically torcher us or control us for eternity? Something like we could call hell?
I am concerned that my family is involved in a religion and they are being deceived, they are taught to do the right things, live good lives without hate, envy or greed but they are also performing rituals in private places in their religion that could be deceptions and I am concerned for them because they are good people they may just be signing away their soul in secret not even knowing it. Is it possible for these evil spirit entities or renegade ET’s to even steal our souls?
I hope you can understand my question, basically is there such things as beings ET’s, renegades or whatever out to steal the souls of man and deceive them and take them to some awful place after this life something we imagine to be hell much much worse than on earth in a fire and brimstone type environment?
I really hope that it is impossible for these entities to do this but please be 100% honest with me and ask Milton what he has to say about it. I’m concerned for my family because I love them so much but they may be involved in this deception and they are signing away their souls to evil entities renegades or whatever not even knowing it even though they are living their lives good without hate, envy and greed. Please help me with my questions. Thanks Kristen
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Post by Lou on Aug 17, 2008 11:57:12 GMT -5
First off I want to say that Sleeper you have made a believer out of me and I have read both of your books and all of your past threads on ATS. I am convinced that what you say comes from real experiences with extraterrestrials. Now I am very concerned about my family and have an important question. Are these evil entities or renegades that you talk about behind any of our world religions? Hello kristen Yes but to identified them by name would make me appear biased Yes Altruistic entities, the good ones, do not require worship, rituals, sacrifice, animal or human, nor do they impose strict ceremonial prayer sessions or adherence. Only humans and renegades require or make such demands on humans. They can't steal anything but they can entice us to give over our soul to them for further processing Yes there is a dark side, and we are free to go there for eternity stealing souls is not allowed. The soul has to willingly make the exchange. The road to hell is paved with good intentions, but they are usually selfish in nature and only outwardly good for show. We can only do so much for family and friends. Saying that we don't hate and envy is easy, practicing such things not easy. Good souls are protected and will not be allowed to fall into the hands of evil.
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Post by kristen on Aug 19, 2008 6:41:01 GMT -5
It’s ok I don’t think anyone will care here were all searching for the truth?
Christians? Go ahead and say it.
What does further processing mean? Are they slowly destroying our soul or using it somehow or what? Thanks
What if a soul doesn’t know they are making the exchange, can they be deceived into making the exchange or do they need to clearly understand the trade whatever that may be for it to count? Can someone innocent be tricked into the deal?
Does this mean that those innocent good people that are tricked and deceived into rituals or giving their soul to evil renegades will be helped in the long run? They will be saved from the benevolent because they didn’t really understand what they were doing? Thanks again sleeper.
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Post by Lou on Aug 19, 2008 10:26:37 GMT -5
It’s ok I don’t think anyone will care here were all searching for the truth? Christians? Go ahead and say it. Not Christians, but there are some denominations that work under that banner with evil intent. Souls that passed a point of no return get special treatment like squeezing oil out of shale before they are put on a shelf and abandoned. If a spark of good is found in them then the spark gets worked on. They will eventually be put through a test to make sure they understand Never If it is determined that they truly are innocent no harm will come to them, even if they are playing in the mud.
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Post by kristen on Aug 20, 2008 2:44:27 GMT -5
Thanks alot Sleeper your answers are helping me deal with what is happening in my family at this time.
I can put faith and hope into believing that they are being watched over even if they are being deceived. At least they believe they are doing the right thing but I believe my parents both have been manipulated ever since they were children from their parents. It was passed down to them as it is a family religion.
The only thing that seperated me from this religion is learning that extraterrestrials are really visiting this planet and it opened up a new paradigm of the true history of this world and I can see now how religions have been used to control and manipulate everyone setup specifically for power, money and control by most governments.
It is sad really, I once believed deeply in my religion but have never found all the answers to my many questions through the religion. There is not one religion out there that has all the answers, I studied most of them when I was younger searching for the truth and you always run into a dead end when searching for God it seems like.
Love & Light to you Sleeper! Thanks so much Kristen
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Post by abarnard on Oct 21, 2008 20:43:38 GMT -5
I hope sleepers questions took the edge off. You signed Love & Light. I have used that too. I learned it years ago from another contactee source I found being a living example of whatever we believe the truth is, brings us closer to Truth.
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Post by grumble on Oct 21, 2008 20:58:17 GMT -5
Good luck to you, kristen. I have family members who deceive themselves with their religion (or prefer to remain deceived, if there is any difference). I have decided it is better to love them and let them be. After all, how can I be so sure I am right in what I believe?
Tolerance is difficult, particularly when someone is selling himself or herself short, but if they are not hurting others, then I think we have to respect their personal paths.
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Post by Lou on Mar 20, 2009 17:16:56 GMT -5
she lived in des moine Iowa and I had travelled there a couple of times to meet her, everything seemed very normal. I would of course announce those visits and all went good, she seemed more interested in knowing and developing my powers as a witch and possibly as a researcher studying a guina pig than a mother. One time I went to see her out of the blue, just went to suprise her, the house she had lived in for over 2o years was totally vacant, there was not one iota of material in that house. I was leaving walking to my car when a neighbor who came from nowhere stopped me and told me they would be back soon, just to come back later, I did not tell this person i knew the house was bare. After this happened there was no more communication between us, she vanished into thin air. The only other communication I recieved was a message from her husband from an unknown number that she had died from the cancer. Let me also tell you something that ties in to this wierd story, when I was 18 I took a standard tubercolosis test at my doctors office in Rock Island , the test was negative, little bubble under the skin, nothing happened with it, the following visit the doctor told me I needed a tubercolosis test, I told him I just had one, described the room I took it in, pointed out the nurse that gave it to me, described the test procedure exactly to him, he denied i had taken one, so I took another, same room , same nurse , same everything, all was the same except this time my arm reacted, I knew in my mind very deeply this was some kind of coverup for some other something. Of course I was xrayed alot, they do this to people with this positive reaction, I was given medications. Ok so I believe when my brother got sick when he was 18 at Stanford, they contacted my doctor to see if there was some kind of problem inherent in the both of us, this testing or medication in my mind had something to do with this , My parents strange behaivor, the incident with the tuber test, the untimely deaths of both biological parents as well. So now I was tested in school for IQ and found out Im a pretty bright boy, IQ over 140, so life goes on. My whole life I have felt watched, My whole life I have felt like I was not from here. I have a haze that I am in most of the time, like some kind of interference to the world, always been very empathic, very telepathic, able to astral project at will as a small child, though I have lost that ability now. I have experience many strange views of many places that simply do not exist here on our planet. I don't believe I think in a human way. I am totally abstract in my way of thought, I always measure and see what I am not looking at, reading between lines that don't exist. I have had two visits from what I would call angels, I can give more detail on the visits, but they named me by name, actually gave me something I long wanted but could not afford, just handed it to me, and as I said identified me by my first and last name. The object this person gave to me was a very expensive ham radio unit that was brand new, with only one request, to talk to me , in our conversation he told me that humans possess certain gifts of the spirit, and that I am one of the very few in the millions of people living or dead that possess all of those gifts. I don't want to list them here, maybe you know about this stuff already. But I might also add this persons presence even before initiating speech made me feel energized, at peace and the hair on my entire body stood up. This person had a perfect set of white teeth, a beautiful aura, golden hair , perfect white skin. I assumed an angel. Somehow as well when this angel walked into the building the door buzzer that usually annoys the hell out of everyone, did not buzz annoyingly, it sounded like a chime, a beautiful one, so somehow just the presence of this angel affected my perception of reality or changed it, also this whole encounter was witnessed by a man who is the typical cowboy type, totally down to earth, and he was shocked , and witnessed the whole ordeal. I think I might be someone who has been reincarnated, and not just anyone ordinary, I don't know who I am , but I wonder to myself if I might be a plant from the aliens, or a result of a government experiment. I believe as a child within those out of body experiences there was communication, and possible travel to other worlds involved,your writings are about the closest I have come to hitting home with feelings of knowingness. Well I have said enough, let me know if I am just crazy, or if this is anything remotely close to anything you know of. Thankyou ODIN Hello ODIN If you read my stuff on ATS and on this board I often tell people that we are from other places, planets and dimensions. That's why most of us are intrigued with space and the stars, we have been out there many times. You certainly have been visited and some of those visits concern the reasons you are here on this planet. Sometimes these visits are not completely erased intentionally. We are all here to work something out concerning our past and our past lives. During these visits they explain many things to you but most of it remains in your subconscious mind. Some of the testing they put us through would be very bizarre and mind blowing if they let us remember the whole thing. Our brains are locked into 3D mode and the beings visiting us are from higher dimensions.
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Post by backyardguru on Mar 20, 2009 18:40:30 GMT -5
its a crazy world isn't it
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Post by grossac on Apr 15, 2009 21:06:19 GMT -5
I've read that there are 9 different levels of planets and that earth is at level 1. Here is a excerpt from The Thiaooba Prophecy"
‘Earth is a planet of the first category and therefore at the bottom of the scale. What does this mean? The planet Earth could be likened to a kindergarten with the emphasis on teaching basic social values. A planet of the second category would then correspond with a primary school where further values are taught - in both schools, adult guidance is imperative. The third category would comprise secondary schools where a foundation of values allows exploration beyond. Next, you would go to university, where you are treated as an adult, for you would not only have attained a certain amount of knowledge, but you would also start to accept civic responsibility. ‘This is the type of progress occurring with the nine categories of planets. The more spiritually advanced you are, the more you will benefit, on a superior planet, by an environment and general way of life which is superior. The very way in which you procure food is much easier, which in turn, simplifies the process of organising your way of life; the consequence is more effective spiritual development. ‘On the higher planets, Nature itself, enters the stage to assist ‘the pupil’ and, by the time you reach planets of the sixth, seventh, eighth and ninth category, not only is your Astral body highly evolved, your physical body has also benefited from your development.
What are your thoughts on that?
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