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Post by Trailrider on Oct 28, 2008 23:48:27 GMT -5
You are better off reading sleepers thread in its entire length than worrying about what the well meaning but misguided Camelot folks are putting on youtube. This issue has been addressed by sleeper in his 158 page and counting thread.
Where is the evidence backing up any of these 2012 claims ? Its a hollywood fear based viral marketing ploy. Search this forum for another thread regarding the 2012 movie they are making.
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Post by noface on Oct 29, 2008 0:47:19 GMT -5
In that Nassim Haramein video he shows clips of huge objects that should/would have created havock with earth if they were not guided off their course. He thinks it's ET that is protecting the earth from this sort of occurance.
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Post by noface on Oct 29, 2008 3:03:15 GMT -5
Sleeper has mentioned the ET's are protecting earth from meteors/asteroids all the time, but ET's can only do so much when an object the size of a small brown dwarf comes into play. Maybe only the higher ups have the capability of stopping such an object in motion, but will they? Hi Kristen, From reading sleeper's stuff, I'm starting to view the term ET very loosely. In that Nassim clip the object is enormous. I don't remember the precise details, it was 8 hours long. ;D But, when it passed near the sun a flare shot out at the perfect time and changed it's course. I believe it was vatican tape. Nassim felt that it was intelligently orchestrated by ET. Are some ET what mankind used to consider Sun gods? I don't know. That's just what was on the video. Sleeper has also mentioned ET living in the sun, so I thought maybe these dudes are on to something. Otherworldly beings in and from the Sun. Why not? Nassim mentioned that all of the societies that have pyramids claim they were built by Sun gods. Maybe they really were? Maybe what looks to us like natural phenomena is really completely under the control of way higher beings/ET that could look to us like gods and live in places like Suns. I'm starting to turn up the hot water in the shower to acclimate myself just in case I do really well over the next couple of lifetimes. I've watched Bob Dean and a lot of that stuff on Camelot. After reading sleeper's view, which makes so much sense to me, I don't pay "the sky is falling" preachers much attention anymore. I like Bob Dean's style though. I'd like to go for coffee with him and pick his brains about his experiences.
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Post by starman111 on Oct 30, 2008 1:11:16 GMT -5
I wrote about my uncle who worked for NASA in sleepers question thread, he had direct knowledge of a brown dwarf coming in 20years or more.
It's quite interesting to hear this guy say it was coming 2017-20.
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Post by Alex^Dj^ on Nov 5, 2008 12:56:00 GMT -5
could planet X exist?? yes kristen right on spot, the only problem i see with the brown dwarf theory is that millions of amateur astronomers (including myself) go out at night with our scopes to see the sky, many (like me) take pictures, if a brown dwarf was close to us (close to our solar system) it would have been photographed sometime now not only by NASA or GOV institutions, it would be by normal people, heck i know people who have telescopes has big has 20 (like meades or celestron's, check their sites) inches in their homes with all the newest cameras and stuff to photograph the nightsky (I do even do AP from time to time with my modest equipment that is a celestron advance german mount with a 6 inch SCT optical tube and a canon eos rebel Xsi camera), somebody from all the people would have detected already (brown dwarf aredetectable, they are not invisible to ccd's cams).. So everything fits nice on that theory of planet X, the only thing that doesnt fit is the one I explain above.
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Post by elgoog on Mar 21, 2009 0:02:10 GMT -5
You are better off reading sleepers thread in its entire length than worrying about what the well meaning but misguided Camelot folks are putting on youtube. This issue has been addressed by sleeper in his 158 page and counting thread. Where is the evidence backing up any of these 2012 claims ? Its a hollywood fear based viral marketing ploy. Search this forum for another thread regarding the 2012 movie they are making. the evidence of the 2012 claims, i believe, is the tzolkin mayan calendar wheel , it's relationship to the julian/gregorian calendar and that is the thing that points to dec 15 2012 as the beginning of the age of the 5th sun. thats pretty convincing evidence to me. The mayans had the concept of 0 and placeholder digits a thousand years before the europeans and persians.... i would not be so quick to throw out their measurements and wisdom for the sake of some talking heads on youtube or anywhere else, unless these talking heads built some pyramids and invented some calendars that are accurate to 5 minutes per year in 15,000..... ~elgoog~
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