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Post by Lou on Jan 5, 2010 10:52:39 GMT -5
For most of history, sex was viewed as a divine gift from the gods. Even in Christian literature, god commanded Abraham and his offspring to populate the world with their seed. To fulfill god’s directive Abraham had many wives and concubine lovers, as did his sons Jacob and Isaac. Only in the west, did sex have a falling out and become a thing of shame. The misunderstanding came in the misinterpretations of biblical accounts/stories about such places as Sodom and Gomorra. Sodom and Gomorra remain illusive to biblical historians, who only agree that it was probably located in the southern edge of the Dead Sea, in the land of Canaan. The land of Canaan was a godless place where the inhabitants fornicated with multiple “earthly” type deities of no spiritual value. Sex was never the issue concerning sin, but human sacrificing to appease mortal gods, idols, and superstitions, was a sin.
Sex, that three-digit dirty little word that we love and hate is what existence is about. Physical matter as well as spiritual matter has a common denominator called creation. Humans, animals, insects and plant life pollinate each other to keep species thriving. Sex is a mechanism of nature, of ecology and with a cosmic never-ending purpose that is no accident of natural selection. Humans are the result of an orgasm; in essence, we are fundamentally an orgasm in the flesh. Love is at the root of our creation. Pure love is a byproduct of orgasm and is what binds those that share the experience. Love by itself does not create a strong bound as it does when mixed with sex. We love our friends, our parents, our siblings and our children, but the bond between lovers is the strongest bond there is. The attachment with our children, who come into our lives because of sex, and sometimes love, is also strong. Sex is what humans do best, not by fluke of nature but by purposeful design by higher powers than we. Humans did not create sex nor have we created the urges, desires, and the lust, the intrinsic elements of sex.
Of all the creatures on Earth, only man has taken the burden upon himself to feel guilt concerning the most natural and essential thing "created" in the universe, sex. Sex was not meant to be a twisted Jekyll and Hide conflagration of ecstasy and damnation. Adam and Eve were not expelled from the Garden of Eden because of sex. Sex was never a concern in the Garden of Eden (heaven). God told Adam and Eve to enjoy all the fruits of the garden except for the Tree of Knowledge. The search for knowledge (forbidden fruit) was the downfall of Adam and Eve, not sex! Why is “certain” knowledge part of the forbidden fruit? Because such knowledge is key to understanding what this life is “really” about and would spoil the fun and the purpose of this temporary existence if it were known. Had Adam and Eve spent more time enjoying the bounty of the magical garden provided them rather than second-guessing the gifts given them and craving those not given to them, they might have avoided the envy trap, which ultimately caused them to be ejected from paradise.
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Post by spacevisitor on Jan 5, 2010 15:50:15 GMT -5
Hi Lou. It’s good to see you are answering questions again, and thanks for those enlightened words regarding the real purpose and important value of that marvelous sinless gift which is so indispensable for all species to survive and which we humans call SEX.
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Post by vortices on Jan 5, 2010 23:18:55 GMT -5
I remember waaaaaay back, you (Lou) made a comment about wishing more questions posed to you were about sex. err something like...maybe.
Anyways, I have been looking forward to this thread starting.
Super duper great to see you back. vortices
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Post by Izarith on Jan 6, 2010 5:06:58 GMT -5
Gee golly Sleeper, You sure know how to rub it in. .......
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Post by Lou on Jan 6, 2010 8:41:10 GMT -5
Hi Lou. It’s good to see you are answering questions again, and thanks for those enlightened words regarding the real purpose and important value of that marvelous sinless gift which is so indispensable for all species to survive and which we humans call SEX. Hello spacevisitor, The devil gets the credit for sex but God created sex. Talk about a mixed up world we live in. lol
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Post by Lou on Jan 6, 2010 8:47:52 GMT -5
I remember waaaaaay back, you (Lou) made a comment about wishing more questions posed to you were about sex. err something like...maybe. Anyways, I have been looking forward to this thread starting. Super duper great to see you back. vortices I don't think I posted such request. I don't want to crowd Dr. Ruth. ;D
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Post by Lou on Jan 6, 2010 9:02:45 GMT -5
Gee golly Sleeper, You sure know how to rub it in. ....... Every day is a new possibility for a gift from above, it does happen now and then.
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Post by muse on Jan 6, 2010 14:39:23 GMT -5
Hey Sleeper and All.
Yeah, all of the above.
And speaking of "rubbing it in"...masturbation?
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Post by Lou on Jan 6, 2010 16:13:52 GMT -5
Hi Lou, I’m grateful your back and thanks for starting this thread. Questions: 1. When you mention having Sex not being a sin does that include people who have multiple partners or even group Sex? Let’s say someone claims to Love more than one person and has multiple lovers? Hi jedi, Personally I prefer monogamy, there are many good reasons for that system while on this earth. But to each their own. In every situation sex is Innocent, what we do with sex may not be. I'm heterosexual by choice. People are free to choose their orientation. There are countries that have strict laws governing age and there are countries that allow it. It's the law of the land that rules. Right or wrong has nothing to do with anything, obey the law or change the law! Animals are food not sex toys. Milton's cousin Vinny. The buck doesn't stop on anyone faction, there were/are many involved in the "ongoing" process. Suns are manufactured at the core/black hole of galaxies and spit out in clumps or singly. These things are mid level jobs, the "prime creators" don't waste their time with such small details as galaxies and suns. ;D What looks really complicated from our 3d perspective is no biggie for the mid level ET dudes. It works, sure fools a whole lot of people. lol The earth really does revolve around the sun. Earth is one of several planets/playpens/prisons filled with toys and things for us to play with and make us feel proud of our accomplishments, or not.
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Post by Izarith on Jan 6, 2010 21:04:03 GMT -5
Gee golly Sleeper, You sure know how to rub it in. ....... Every day is a new possibility for a gift from above, it does happen now and then. Sleeper, What about sex in the spirit world, dreams and abductions? Is there a special bond between some souls that are carried out despite living different lives? Like you and Neptini do you still have a bond with her, do you ever see her in your dreams? Is being monogamous in the soul world a bad thing? How does it work sex wise in the soul world?
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Post by Lou on Jan 7, 2010 9:51:03 GMT -5
Sleeper, What about sex in the spirit world, dreams and abductions? Hello izz, Sex in the spirit world is a heavenly delight! Very special I certainly do. No such thing as monogamy in the soul world. It works perfectly and without a hitch. ;D
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Post by noface on Jan 7, 2010 9:56:40 GMT -5
Hey Sleeper and All. Yeah, all of the above. And speaking of "rubbing it in"...masturbation? After many years of deep contemplation, enlightenment has broke through into consciousness and I finally understand the profound zen koan, "What is the sound of one hand clapping?" Thanks guys!
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Post by Lou on Jan 7, 2010 9:57:38 GMT -5
Hi there lou, Is there a relation between sexual stimulation and blood lust? If so, could you explain this relation? Thanks! Hi sanch, People with blood lust also have sex. The two are not connected. Combining things that make us happy increases the pleasure. People that get pleasure from watching others suffer may get their jollies but I wouldn't want to be going where they are heading.
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Post by jca2008 on Jan 9, 2010 6:10:15 GMT -5
Lou,
Hello been a while, but You couldn't have said it best. I don't think humans will ever actually understand sex. It's just weird how humans are warped into believing sex is a sin or blasphemy. I agree that sex is not a sin, but I also believe it should only be shared with someone whom you love. If you are married or in a relationship it would be greedy of yourself to find another woman on the side even if you were in a situation that you felt you weren't getting enough sex from that person.
I agree we shouldn't just give our bodies up just randomly, especially for money that would be evil and because of greed. I think paying for sex just as well as selling yourself are based off of being greedy. Am I right or wrong? What is your view on prostitution?
There are things in this world we will not always know why it happens, but it does. I have just went with flow and let it happen. So much greed, hatred, and envy has left my body. I almost don't have a care in the world for such things.
I just roll with it now. Let it happen. Let this life flow it's course. And when I leave this body I will realize it wasn't as long of a life as I thought and I will be where I am supposed to go next and I believe with no doubt in the back of my mind it will be on Utopia hopefully with you and a few others from here by my side I can share some laughs with about this world relaxing watching the ocean or something.
Everyone tells me I am an old man because I don't want to go out and party, but I just want peace and quiet so I can think and meditate on things and partying won't help me with that. Well not their kind of partying.
The questions that many of us ask you. I am starting to believe that we already know the answers deep inside ourselves and they come to us over time. But sometimes we do all need that little bit of guidance from someone who knows.
But your words make me have realize something else, and another question pop up in my mind, but in a different form. I may not have asked you this right, and you may not tell me, if you could delve into it a bit, I would like, if not I understand. I understand now more than anything.
What is the purpose of humans, and why were we made in the first place? If our creator what ever that is made us, why would this entity make us?
It new it probably have problems with us, and some souls would not go to utopia, so what is the point of us humans? This is a question that will probably bug me the rest of my life.
As I will wonder this world and think of why put humans through pain and suffering. But I realize this is a boot camp, but a boot camp to go to Utopia? These are the simple steps you have been telling us all this time to unplug ourselves from this world to get to the real one.
All the things you tell us, should be common sense for most humans, but it is not? Before I came to ATS where I found your very first thread I would have never thought of any of these things you have told us. I would almost be another zombie if that's how I should put it. Now I believe I am getting closer to understanding and enlightenment or ascension. But I want to get it the way I am supposed to.
I dare not tell the world these things, because I just don't think they'd understand. Sometimes we all have to bleed just to know we are really alive and here.
Thank You for sharing more wisdom and knowledge with us all. Please continue to do so. I am looking forward to more of your work, and hopefully a new book.
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Post by jca2008 on Jan 9, 2010 6:23:02 GMT -5
Hi Lou, Thanks for the quick reply. I guess the only questions left to ask are, Is there anything we can possibly do when having sex that is considered wrong? Anything at all? Is it wrong to look at another woman and think in our minds, “Damn that lady is a fox, wish I could get a piece of that.” Trying to break it all down here, so what are the official Milton commandments when it comes to Sex rules and regulations if any? As long as we don’t physically use, abuse or injure anyone everything is ok including lusting after other woman or thinking it out in our minds maybe imagining, even viewing a little porn every now and then? ;D Please don’t hold back. What do we need to avoid when it comes to thoughts, lusts and Sex if anything? JediKnight, I am not sure what Lou thinks, but porn changes the brain. It is not good for young immature boys/teenagers to watch. It changes their thinking patterns and makes them only want to have sex and want to be with many women and is harder for them to stay committed to one person if they don't have a woman that isn't as "hot" as a porn model. They look for the best looking woman they can find, then when they can't and take their chances and settle for less, such as someone who is somewhat attractive in their own minds but nothing that looks like a porn model they watch on the tv, and may not get sex like they are used to seeing in a porn movie. I really don't think sex is really supposed to be how they make it in a pornography. It's not just about pleasure it should be about love. Love is all we should have inside our bodies then we will view this world from a different perspective.
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