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Post by bob on Sept 27, 2009 15:34:47 GMT -5
Hiya Azrael!
If you believe yourself to be impotent and hell-bound, then so shall be your reality. It is you who grant reality to whatever appears in consciousness. In fact, you have the ultimate power, you are God, but in your compounded confusion you believe yourself to be any devil's bitch, and so suffer the implications of such belief. There is an alternative -- wake up to your own light!
Blessings!
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Post by Lou on Sept 28, 2009 9:13:36 GMT -5
I must have somehow opened myself to this sort of evil being through actions or desire, so now the question is how do I reverse whatever has happened and why didnt my guardian step in. Hi azrael, Some on the wrong road don't get harassed in life and in their dreams as much as some on the right road do. Life is a place of traps and you don't trap those that are merrily and giddily walking into the trap on their own. If you get my drift. Guardians are part of this sting operation too.
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Post by Azrael on Sept 28, 2009 17:53:34 GMT -5
thanks Lou,
I also figured that since ive known that girl and have been talking to her those evil entities she has been seeing have disappeared and havent visited her so I had been sort of expecting something to pay me a visit since I know about them though this entity is quite different then anything either of us have ever encountered. She has been harassed as well much more then me in her life and she hasnt done anything bad in her life but she has had a pretty crummy one.
Ive almost thought meeting her was a test, that before I was becoming a bit too unsympathetic to others because of the you get what you deserve karma the universe instills.
and bob,
your life philosophies are so severly flawed its hard to even start, one can't go through life being inflexible in there beliefs thinking they know everything if that was the case you wouldn't be on this rock. The Human being is superior belief is part of the reason why Aliens and the paranormal are so shunned because people can't accept that humans arent the end all be all and that we are surrounded by more advanced and intelligent life forms.....which operate all around us and outside our perception just like we would to a 1dimension starfish.
Think how much more capable an adult human is to a baby, then think how much more advanced an ancient alien civilization would be to our infant civilzation.........then picture something from a higher level of existence it would be literally God to something in our 3D realm to think otherwise and that Humans are as powerful is foolish.
seeing an alien or entity doesnt make one hellbound... that is ignorant and laughable, believing that we are the God of our reality is egotistical and naive. Things happen behind the scenes that we aren't aware of and are orchastrated life is about making the right choices and being good to those around you ......not about instilling yourself with a false belief of superiority that runs counter to everything that Lou has said.
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Post by bob on Sept 28, 2009 23:34:06 GMT -5
Hiya Azrael! In reflecting on your comments above, it appears you have misunderstood what was being communicated – but no matter. It’s more about something much simpler in any case, though habitually overlooked in our search for some reality apart from this, this that we have here now, this one moment, awareness itself. Even so, by regularly returning our attention to this awareness itself, rather than on all the passing fluff in the mirror, vision gradually clarifies, eventually revealing without a trace of doubt that God is, because we are -- we are, because God is. ‘They’ are not two. The illusion is whatever appears to make them seem otherwise. For most of us, a whole lot of stuff and nonsense, but fortunately, there is a way to pierce the illusion . . . seriously. It’s been tried and tested and found fruitful, but requires everything of the aspirant -- true letting go -- and few are willing to dig that deep into the silence, so the smoky mirror show continues, Cha Cha Cha . . . Blessings!
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Post by Azrael on Sept 29, 2009 16:25:01 GMT -5
Hiya Azrael! In reflecting on your comments above, it appears you have misunderstood what was being communicated – but no matter. It’s more about something much simpler in any case, though habitually overlooked in our search for some reality apart from this, this that we have here now, this one moment, awareness itself. Even so, by regularly returning our attention to this awareness itself, rather than on all the passing fluff in the mirror, vision gradually clarifies, eventually revealing without a trace of doubt that God is, because we are -- we are, because God is. ‘They’ are not two. The illusion is whatever appears to make them seem otherwise. For most of us, a whole lot of stuff and nonsense, but fortunately, there is a way to pierce the illusion . . . seriously. It’s been tried and tested and found fruitful, but requires everything of the aspirant -- true letting go -- and few are willing to dig that deep into the silence, so the smoky mirror show continues, Cha Cha Cha . . . Blessings! Lol the point of this thread (and sort of blog to record so I remember them) is to share my experiences whether how big or small pertaining to the paranormal, for someone to speak in the manner you do you better have an alien authority who is feeding you information and you might notice that the one person who does and has the answers doesnt speak in your manner because its offputting. For someone to take the time to post there experiences and share the information and have someone who hasnt experienced anything then try and hijack it with backwards and false newagism like they are some sort of expert is beyond arrogant and egotistical it reeks of wannabe(and cultism), and anybody who has read what Lou has said knows your entire philosophy is for the most part false. I can tell your looking for a soapbox and I can assure you this isnt it, this reminds me of Lou's ATS thread when 80 pages in somebody posts that they havent read anything but the first page but that they thought this stop abductions link would be of great help to him lol, but anybody who had read the thread knew that it would only result in the memory being blocked. There is no one God or Jesus but even in the bible Jesus encountered the devil, people like Lou have seen bad entities as well and if you watch Ghost hunters they come across them all the time its not exactly a reflection of the person. I'm sure my journey into the unknown will continue, my beliefs and opinions will change but I'm not going to pretend like im some sort of expert with all the answers it makes one look like a tool I will simply convey them the best I can and best of luck with your philosophies i'm sure they will make a great cult someday.
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Post by bob on Sept 30, 2009 0:13:44 GMT -5
Hiya Azrael! It seems you’re of the opinion that, unless one’s from space, they don’t have a clue. I suppose one could say that makes you a ‘Spacist’. Y'know, it always amazes me how horrified and even threatened folks can get at the mere prospect of taking responsibility for their own mind. A friend thoughtfully suggested that I share some of my own ‘experiences’ here, since this is a thread about experience, and he knows from years back I’ve had my share – I don’t speak with forked tongue, Dude, or suggest anything I haven’t tasted for myself to see if it is true. Anyway, I thought about it a moment, and I sincerely appreciate his intent, but since my story-telling days of yor, now documented wherever, I’ve since grown curiously quieter (my noisy yacking here being an increasingly rare exception, and mostly in response to questions). I guess you could say I’ve seen something about experience itself, as well as the conditional nature of any interpretation on the perception of experience that invariably is applied. From what I’ve come to recognize, best to let it all go – after all, it’s already gone. Check it out for yourself, or not! What interests me is what remains, what is prior, and what endures unchanged, awake, and aware in the midst of whatever appears and disappears. The unborn infinite open-emptiness of pure awareness – our true nature and condition, regardless of our roles on any stage. Blessings! www.pbase.com/1heart/image/117692368
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Post by Azrael on Sept 30, 2009 6:59:18 GMT -5
Lol I suppose I am a spacist, I have no problem with people having varying points of view the problem is when a certain one say like scientology or jehovah witness or new ageism disregards everything else or twists things to fit there view. I don't believe a human being on his own can attain any sort of meaningful insight into the universe because I dont believe that is the purpose of being human, the human beings that would be prime candidates to refute this say Jesus (didnt exist), Buddha(ET), Mohammed (powered by ET)cant refute it.
The purpose of being human is to do right onto others and avoid lifes traps while we are doing time on this prison planet, I'm certain there is lots of things going on all around us and some people get a peek here and there but to have any real understanding you would need to gain the knowledge from a being without the same limitations we have....hence why Lou is the only one who seems to know the big picture.
So what i'm saying is...there is only one Yoda on this board and his name is Lou haha the rest of us humans are left guessing and assuming we can't possibly declare we know everything thats absurd. But im sure you have had life experiences or other such things that have given you insight im just saying im pretty sure you havent reached enlightenment (nor anyone else) therefore one shouldnt speak like their words are universal cosmic law.
And I dont exactly share this information I post here anywhere else the goal is to post it as it happens thats all maybe other people have had similar experiences maybe they have an opinion thats fine. I'm under no illusions when dealing with the unknown its easy to misintrepret things so to jump to conclusions and pass judgement on things that I know for a fact you dont understand is unacceptable
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Post by Starlight on Sept 30, 2009 10:48:56 GMT -5
Hi Bob,
Azrael was asked by some on here aways back to start his own thread of his experiences, so it would be a tidy place for the rest of us to find. Many of us have had similar experiences but his are much more prolific & and lucid than ours.
We are not people looking for a spiritual path to gain awareness of ourself & the universe or whatever you would say in "Buddha Speak" . Us Aussie's would say you have a fantastic "gift of the gab" (although half of it I get a headache just trying to figure out what your point is with all the flowery big words) but it just isn't what most of us on here are about. We know the truth (mostly tidied up by Sleeper). We are here to share and maybe not feel so lonely in our knowing.
Tell me Bob have you had an ET experience or sighting or just a knowing that these things on this board are true?
You do take magnificent photos and you are extremely eloquent (especially compared to me and I do worry I am not getting my point here across properly).
I guess what I'm trying to say is, please leave azrael and this thread be. This is not a place for debate.
I wish you love & peace, Stella
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Post by Azrael on Sept 30, 2009 13:09:16 GMT -5
I think discussion is much better then debate, I dont like hearing universal declarations such as if you encounter something either a bad spirit or ET that you are hellbound unless you use some bogus methods to protect your mind, there has been enough said from Lou to squash both those declarations. And I dont think there will be any more experiences on my end for a bit im on a night shift this week so anything would have to be really ballsy to come see me during the day which they never have. I always thought a day encounter would be easier. One of the things you learn when you deal with these sorts of encounters is that the beings are extremely deceptive, they will pass themselves off as people or things you know...and they will plant false memories in your mind.......for example i dont think i posted this here but in another thread I woke up during the night a few years ago and had 2 lizard creatures near my bed that were illuminated and quite visible they were swaying around and I was paralyzed and couldnt move....but then I was able to break free and run away though I was extremely groggy in my mind while doing it I made it to a family members room woke them up and proceeded to tell them that aliens are real and 2 reptiles are on there way despite this person being a huge skeptic they said ok and didnt seem very worried the lizards approached and groggy and dizzy in the mind i managed to throw one of them down the stairs which ended the encounter and I snapped out of it in my bed. Now I know something happened because I was awake, I know something happened because of the paralysis that is always a warning bell and has involved many remembered happenings. But I know that I wouldnt be able to do that to those creatures unless my guide or another entity perhaps interrupted/disrupted there paralysis of me so I could maybe defend myself i believe it unlikely that happened and have the suspicion it was a planted false memory to hide something else the person I awakened had no memory of it but i know that person has had ET's/spirits in his room before even though they are a non believer and have no memories of this because I remember visiting that house while they were there and spending the night and there being activity in that persons room while I was paralyzed in a different one and having "something" approach and give me an almost telepathic impression that they were thinking what are you doing here you dont live here at the moment. I don't know if I can convey my point any clearer but the point is there is layers upon layers of this stuff that is impossible to make black and white declarations about. Lou is given a mostly clear memory of these things we other humans arent. I have gained tremendous insight and I know things for a fact things that other people will go to there grave not knowing what I know for 100percent that there is such things as life on other planets ET's and Spirits........But there is a saying that a wiseman(im probably not wise but I can pretend to be) knows his limitations where as other people will try and exceed them leading them down the wrong path (though anyone is welcome to believe I bested 2 reptilians with all there advantages and physical prowess (they were taller then me im 5ft11) I will personally assume that it never happened and that memory hides another one.
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Post by Azrael on Sept 30, 2009 16:15:57 GMT -5
Since I have had a few days of reflection from that encounter I will try and go into more detail.
I had been watching ghost hunters a few hours before and went to bed.........I was awoken and was already paralyzed I immediately noticed something was already happening I was shaking and there was pressure on my mind my impression was that my mind was under attack or being squeezed and the image of that creature/being a black cloudy mist with a twisted face not really a body more of a circle shape was flashing in my mind I know there is things going on around me I think that the creature is hovering over my bed. This is over in 10seconds (well thats what it felt like) and I now have a headache.
So for the last couple days I have been wondering if it did something to me or what it was up to. I have tried to see if there has been any differences with me but not really....despite the verbal fencing on this thread I have gotten along with everyone quite well in my life this week and have been generally happy. Using basic logic I don't really think something like that could turn you to the darkside if that was the purpose why wouldnt they send a hot annunaki girl haha seduction would be a much better method then sending some creature that has made me take even more notice into doing the right things and getting along with the people in my life.
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Post by Izarith on Sept 30, 2009 17:36:22 GMT -5
Hello Azrael, Dreams and sleep paralysis don't really mean much for our conscious mind. I think it's had a lot more to do with general maintenance of some subconscious stuff that took place while we slept. Bob was just putting his view out there to help out. He has a very buddhist Hindu view on life from what I can tell and from what I read he was just saying don't over analyze or you will end up creating a "I am being turned to the dark side" scenario in your head based on stuff your conscious mind does not understand. No need for fencing. TA!! Izzy.
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Post by Azrael on Sept 30, 2009 19:31:10 GMT -5
Hello Azrael, Dreams and sleep paralysis don't really mean much for our conscious mind. I think it's had a lot more to do with general maintenance of some subconscious stuff that took place while we slept. Bob was just putting his view out there to help out. He has a very buddhist Hindu view on life from what I can tell and from what I read he was just saying don't over analyze or you will end up creating a "I am being turned to the dark side" scenario in your head based on stuff your conscious mind does not understand. No need for fencing. TA!! Izzy. If that was the actual msg then I would have no problem with that I intrepreted it quite differently, and there is sleep paralysis and dreams and then there is something enters the room and before you can do anything your paralyzed I consider those my most significant encounters which i posted earlier in the thread where I have actually seen beings while being conscious, those ones there isnt any doubt. And this last one wasnt a dream whatever it was doing was violent enough to wake me up in the middle of it. But yeah the points in my last few posts is that this stuff is too easy to over analyze thats why I try and just to post what happens the previous analogy with the 2 reptiles made my head hurt lol hence why I wanted to avoid that.
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Post by Izarith on Sept 30, 2009 20:49:27 GMT -5
Azrael, Apparently you have not read some of my past post about dreams and sleep paralysis. I know a little about what you are going through. Many of the experiences you post about remind me of thing that have happened to me. Bob just has a different look on things and he tells it the way he sees it. Sleeper does the same thing. Debating or not agreeing is one thing but to call people arrogant and that their view is flawed does not belong in a place where we talk about the spiritual and paranormal. Unless you want to dogmatize it. That's all I'm saying. I do like reading your experiences so keep them coming. Izzy.
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Post by Starlight on Sept 30, 2009 22:40:30 GMT -5
Hello Azrael, Dreams and sleep paralysis don't really mean much for our conscious mind. I think it's had a lot more to do with general maintenance of some subconscious stuff that took place while we slept. Bob was just putting his view out there to help out. He has a very buddhist Hindu view on life from what I can tell and from what I read he was just saying don't over analyze or you will end up creating a "I am being turned to the dark side" scenario in your head based on stuff your conscious mind does not understand. No need for fencing. TA!! Izzy.
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Post by Starlight on Sept 30, 2009 22:48:03 GMT -5
::)Oops pressed the wrong dang button again. don't over analyze or you will end up creating a "I am being turned to the dark side" scenario in your head based on etc etc Izzy has made a very good point here especially and further on. He has had experiences very similar to yours so he may know some. I am afraid I was interpreting Bob's words similar to you Azarael. Anyways....lets party and move right along shall we. Stella.
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