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Post by Lou on Mar 28, 2010 11:13:37 GMT -5
Hi Lou, Thank you for the answers! Would these statements be accurate: The sun "dies" for three days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops in its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north. In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin." The sun is the "Light of the World." The sun "cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him." The sun rising in the morning is the "Savior of mankind." The sun wears a corona, "crown of thorns" or halo. The sun "walks on water." The sun's "followers," "helpers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the sun must pass. The sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the "Most High"; thus, "he" begins "his Father's work" at "age" 12. The sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30°; hence, the "Sun of God" begins his ministry at "age" 30. The sun is hung on a cross or "crucified," which represents its passing through the equinoxes, the vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected. As I see it, God-Man myths were very popular and pre-dated the God-Man of Jesus by thousands of years. They all shared a common format which is that the Son of God has 12 disciples, and is betrayed and killed. Popular myths such as the virgin birth, miracles, curing the blind and ill are also familiar and common aspects of these myths. As such, such events may later be assumed to be true of the historical Jesus. Stories about the disciples "became" true and not simply symbolic stories as the original gnostic Christians believed (I think). The number 12 had always been "divine": the 12 heavenly gods of many ancient cultures, the 12 stations of life in Buddhism, the 12 tribes of Israel...Did the Jews adopt the idea of 12 leaders, sons of Jacob, etc. during their stay in Babylon, a culture that worshipped that number, "created" the zodiac, had 12 leaders, etc? Hi pablo, Egypt is the birthplace of Judaism and from where the one deity concept for them took root. Much of Judaism's beliefs and concepts mixed in with local paganism was forged on the Nile Delta. The Old Testament is a collection of messianic stories, Moses, Joseph and his multicolored coat, King David, Joshua, Ezekiel, Jonah and many more. Christianity borrows from those stories and adds a few new twists. Some Jews saw the writing on the wall and understood that Judaism was dieing from internal strife way before Rome entered the picture. Christianity was a Jewish creation to keep some of the basic principles of Judaism alive and inclusive, by making it open to Gentiles, non Jews, the "Virgins". Constantine was well aware of Mithraist rituals and did incorporate some of them with other pagan concepts of king/deity in mind for himself. Christianity proved to be formidable and popular and he seized on it and became its savior, Messiah and hoped the people would notice. The rituals were paganistic and the Sabbath not important with the original Christians. "The Sabbath was created for man, not man for the Sabbath". Sunday is the first day of the week, the day Jesus came back from the dead, therefore some, many Christians worship on that day. Yes, and from a man (Saul) who had much Christian blood on his own hands before converting and becoming Paul.
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Post by Lou on Mar 28, 2010 11:30:19 GMT -5
Question for Lou - if Abraham is a metaphor do you know anything about this verse? God said to Abraham: "Leave your land, your birthplace and your father's house, and go to the land I will show you" (Genesis 12:1) Is it a spiritual/worldly metaphor? It was the creation of a sacrificial lamb.
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Post by Azrael on Mar 28, 2010 22:51:03 GMT -5
Hi Lou,
Were the sumerians ET's/exiles? or were they just understudies/descendents of the annunakai who they worshipped as gods?
In the bible Abraham came from sumer is there some connection or significance to this?
In the old testament people appeared to live alot longer what was the reason for this or did those ages indicate a dynasty rather then an individual?
thanks!
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Post by Lou on Apr 7, 2010 11:49:48 GMT -5
Hi Lou, Were the sumerians ET's/exiles? or were they just understudies/descendents of the annunakai who they worshipped as gods? Yes Certainly Dynasties.
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Post by Azrael on Apr 7, 2010 14:30:15 GMT -5
lol what is the significance of abraham coming from the land of sumer?
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Post by Azrael on Apr 14, 2010 10:54:11 GMT -5
Hi Lou, I came across this wiccan girl who was babbling on about alot of stuff but she mentioned that Leviathan was an atlantean creature and while I doubt the wiccans/pagans know a whole lot of secrets is that true? And what does it mean in the book of enoch verses when Leviathan and Behemoth feed on the people of the wilderness but then god (the only one capable of killing them) strikes them down and the people of the wilderness eat there flesh? Thanks
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Post by Izarith on Apr 14, 2010 17:15:54 GMT -5
Question for Lou - if Abraham is a metaphor do you know anything about this verse? God said to Abraham: "Leave your land, your birthplace and your father's house, and go to the land I will show you" (Genesis 12:1) Is it a spiritual/worldly metaphor? It was the creation of a sacrificial lamb. Hello Sleeper, Here is a unpolitically correct question I'll understand if you don't want to answer. After looking into Judaism I have found that the whole "Chosen people" thing smells really, really fishy. Jews also through out history have rubbed non Jews the wrong way. It's almost like non Jews have a genetic hate of Jews and every once in a while they try to exterminate Jews off the face of the planet. And Jews have a genetic pissing the whole world off thing going too. The history of Jews and non Jews is a really disturbing picture, it's like a guaranteed fight that is going to happen every 100 years or so. It plays out roughly in correlation with what the Torah says will happen. The funny thing is if Jews would follow what is dictated for them to do there would be no problem. Banking is bad, Loaning money out for interest to a Jew is forbidden, and loaning money out for interest to a non Jew is covering their goods, according to the Rabbis of old, you leave a corner of your field for the stranger and you don't leave the Holy land for absolutely no reason, finally you serve as a role model for the rest of man kind. If you don't your in a world of hurt. On the other hand The Torah says that despite the fact that Israel really pisses God off for being a bunch of stiff necks any non Jew that lays a had on the Jews is in an even bigger world of hurt because of his covenant with Abraham. So my question is... Are Jews a huge sting operation for the rest of Man kind? And is there another huge sting coming right around the corner? Izzy.
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Post by Lou on Apr 16, 2010 9:13:33 GMT -5
lol what is the significance of abraham coming from the land of sumer? The gods hanging out there.
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Post by Lou on Apr 16, 2010 9:22:59 GMT -5
Hi Lou, I came across this wiccan girl who was babbling on about alot of stuff but she mentioned that Leviathan was an atlantean creature and while I doubt the wiccans/pagans know a whole lot of secrets is that true? Hi az, Could be They are one and the same, wilderness people and the creatures, with an Egyptian twist.
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Post by Lou on Apr 16, 2010 9:36:18 GMT -5
It was the creation of a sacrificial lamb. Hello Sleeper, Here is a unpolitically correct question I'll understand if you don't want to answer. After looking into Judaism I have found that the whole "Chosen people" thing smells really, really fishy. Jews also through out history have rubbed non Jews the wrong way. It's almost like non Jews have a genetic hate of Jews and every once in a while they try to exterminate Jews off the face of the planet. And Jews have a genetic pissing the whole world off thing going too. The history of Jews and non Jews is a really disturbing picture, it's like a guaranteed fight that is going to happen every 100 years or so. It plays out roughly in correlation with what the Torah says will happen. The funny thing is if Jews would follow what is dictated for them to do there would be no problem. Banking is bad, Loaning money out for interest to a Jew is forbidden, and loaning money out for interest to a non Jew is covering their goods, according to the Rabbis of old, you leave a corner of your field for the stranger and you don't leave the Holy land for absolutely no reason, finally you serve as a role model for the rest of man kind. If you don't your in a world of hurt. On the other hand The Torah says that despite the fact that Israel really pisses God off for being a bunch of stiff necks any non Jew that lays a had on the Jews is in an even bigger world of hurt because of his covenant with Abraham. So my question is... Are Jews a huge sting operation for the rest of Man kind? Hello Izzy, The Jews have a privilege, people tend to despise privilege in others...to their own detriment and eventual downfall. Yes, the salt mines need a steady stream of new volunteers.
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Post by noface on Apr 16, 2010 13:50:34 GMT -5
Hello Izzy, The Jews have a privilege, people tend to despise privilege in others...to their own detriment and eventual downfall. Yes, the salt mines need a steady stream of new volunteers. Great original question Izzy. I'm going to have to think about that answer. I've worked with and befriended a few Jews. What's the deal with the privilege Lou? Is it in their genes and then certain souls incarnate into those genetic bodies?
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Post by Izarith on Apr 17, 2010 5:48:12 GMT -5
Hello Izzy, The Jews have a privilege, people tend to despise privilege in others...to their own detriment and eventual downfall. You sneaky little Sleeper you.... All day long I have been thinking about your response, and to be honest a few times I had to catch myself from being envious of the Jews and their privilege. Witch is very odd and insightful and a bit disappointing, but hey, nobody is perfect. As a halfbreed who has lived in the middle of two races, two countries and two cultures both of which see the other race in me I've been forced to see the entire human race in its entirety as one race that I am not a part of. I have never had room to hate a person based on their race to me you are all the same, no offence lol. Me on the other hand, I'm the next step in human evolution Baby. I do try my bestest to be considered a Mexican tho. I was born her for crying out loud. But anyway, just now all of a sudden what you say makes perfect sense..... The Jews call themselves the chosen people, chosen by god. They live it, breath it and believe it. It makes no matter weather it's true or not, they believe it so much that the rest of the world, non Jews and the like, believe it as well. And like kids in a sand box everyone wants to beat up the kid with the cool toy, especially if he is a little, whiny ,nerdy, bratty "NO STINCKING SHARE!!" kid. Well that just sucks, I can only hope to find some way to stay out of it....And help those who need a little safety, no matter what the race. Well except the Dutch, I hate the Dutch. Izzy.
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Post by Azrael on Apr 17, 2010 9:10:24 GMT -5
Hi Lou, I came across this wiccan girl who was babbling on about alot of stuff but she mentioned that Leviathan was an atlantean creature and while I doubt the wiccans/pagans know a whole lot of secrets is that true? Hi az, Could be They are one and the same, wilderness people and the creatures, with an Egyptian twist. Since they are one and the same how does Eqypt get seeded by a strange creature like leviathan and the result grows into what is currently there or was it the old eqypt that bared this resemblence more? Why Eqypt in particular? And what was the Eqyptian twist? Thanks
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Post by Lou on Apr 20, 2010 8:18:27 GMT -5
Hello Izzy, The Jews have a privilege, people tend to despise privilege in others...to their own detriment and eventual downfall. Yes, the salt mines need a steady stream of new volunteers. What's the deal with the privilege Lou? Is it in their genes and then certain souls incarnate into those genetic bodies? Hi noface, It's more than the genes they wear, it's also from where they originated from before coming to earth.
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Post by Lou on Apr 20, 2010 8:26:02 GMT -5
Well that just sucks, I can only hope to find some way to stay out of it....And help those who need a little safety, no matter what the race. Well except the Dutch, I hate the Dutch. Izzy. Yeah, I hate going Dutch too. ;D
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