lostsoul
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Post by lostsoul on Aug 6, 2008 8:17:18 GMT -5
Question 1: Tired souls wanting out
(First of all, thanks a lot for your reply on the comments thread.)
Can you elaborate on souls wanting out - no more rebirth etc. What is your take on moksha/nirvana - the eastern concept of no more births ?
You have often mentioned in passing that a soul can choose not to continue, or can choose an end, but not elaborated, since i guess none of the readers were interested in that option.
However, (i think) this is integral to the eastern concept of moksha/nirvana, where the person is tired of experiencing and wants no more joy/pleasure/longing etc -- completely wants out. He wants a complete end. For some, this can be merging/uniting with one's God/Guru or for others it can be (very hard to put it) an end to existence (not the physical suicide way, of course).
I just reached page 79 of the ATS thread, in response to similar questions by @vasudeva you said that there are better lives/things/worlds beyond this. What if the soul is just not interested ?
Thanks a lot for your time. I have just a couple more simple questions - these pertain to my life/path and are not just out of curiosity or for intellectual discussion. Best wishes to you and your family.
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Post by Lou on Aug 6, 2008 21:55:53 GMT -5
Question 1: Tired souls wanting out(First of all, thanks a lot for your reply on the comments thread.) Can you elaborate on souls wanting out - no more rebirth etc. What is your take on moksha/nirvana - the eastern concept of no more births ? Hello soul Haven't read it Renegades end in those zones. Non-existence is freaky stuff once existence is initiated. Impossible to explain those dark recesses of non-existence. Complete snuffing is impossible. That is a 3D point of view Kind of a retirement thing, let someone else do the paddling lol Again, a 3D concept. We certainly get those feelings when in school, work or in prison and doing things we don't enjoy doing. Drudgery sucks Those who move out of drudgery planets would never consider extinction.
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Post by lostsoul on Aug 6, 2008 22:27:43 GMT -5
Sleeper, Thanks a lot for your reply. btw, i love your sense of humor. One of your remarks around p79 had me clutching my sides :-). I think I have only one other question for the moment.
Question 2: Devotion and Spiritual Surrender
Another thing you have touched upon often, but not gone into. I would like you to talk about this a bit more, if possible -- devotion and spiritual surrender.
Many of us are devoted to a God or a Guru/saint, our only wish is to leave this body and "go to His Feet" forever. We may (try to) surrender our "egos" to this entity, or surrender ourselves totally to the "creator" or to existence.
I remember you said that our God's/leaders were created by ET, and they don't want worship. But I'd like you to talk a little more on this path. Is there then never any "uniting/merging" with God ?
Thanks a lot for sharing. Namaste.
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Post by Lou on Aug 6, 2008 23:38:12 GMT -5
Sleeper, Thanks a lot for your reply. btw, i love your sense of humor. One of your remarks around p79 had me clutching my sides :-). I think I have only one other question for the moment. That's the least I could do We are unique individuals as I keep pointing out lol But we are part of a substance, some call it God. We are never without this energy, this creator force that radiates love and joy. We are only temporarily cut off from this benevolence by our fear and shame. When we die our fear and shame are put on hold, for some anyway, and we are in the presence and light of this powerful love. It's only our shame that keeps us away because we can't hide anything under such light. Like the parable of the Prodigal Son, it is the father that worships the son, and forgives him, but the son must forgive himself and muster the courage to face the father.
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Post by lostsoul on Aug 7, 2008 0:57:24 GMT -5
Thank you for your beautiful reply.
God (ET) bless you :-D
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Post by noface on Aug 7, 2008 2:13:54 GMT -5
Like the parable of the Prodigal Son, it is the father that worships the son, and forgives him, but the son must forgive himself and muster the courage to face the father. Are you saying the only thing keeping me from feeling the Grace of God, or our essential nature, is lack of self-forgiveness and the courage to go against all the "authorities", internal and external, that tell me I shouldn't feel that good for all the reasons they give me? Here's an idea for a book: "The Christian Parables From An ET's Perspective" I'm serious, dude. I'd buy it. The e-book version for sure. ;D
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Post by Lou on Aug 7, 2008 12:00:48 GMT -5
Like the parable of the Prodigal Son, it is the father that worships the son, and forgives him, but the son must forgive himself and muster the courage to face the father. Are you saying the only thing keeping me from feeling the Grace of God, or our essential nature, is lack of self-forgiveness and the courage to go against all the "authorities", internal and external, that tell me I shouldn't feel that good for all the reasons they give me? Well, yeah! lol Great idea, thanks!
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Post by noface on Aug 7, 2008 13:28:07 GMT -5
Nooooo, thank you.
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Post by skyhippie on Mar 6, 2009 23:50:47 GMT -5
i saw a fireball/ufo a couple days ago in montpelier vermont, it was like a big sattelite type circle of light travelling across the sky, that very quickly grew to something about half the size of the moon and dissapeared/burned up, it looked like it was fire. I saw this shortly after some jesus freaks told me some pamphlet they were handing out was about how to get to heaven and i humorously said aliens as i was walking away. would love some input
whats your opinion of billy meiers, Dr. deagle,
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Post by skyhippie on Mar 31, 2009 1:10:05 GMT -5
what is your definition of a human?
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Post by Lou on Mar 31, 2009 9:47:29 GMT -5
what is your definition of a human? Humans, unlike most animals, are aware of their own stench.
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Post by double92134 on Aug 31, 2009 13:10:50 GMT -5
Dear Lou, recently heard your interview on the Veritas Show, and it was a great show. One question:
If we (souls/people) here on earth cannot pass to the next (Utopia) world, because of greed, hate, envy, etc. Than how come the alleged bad aliens are keeping us trapped/ running our civilization. Or hiding (greed), and doing bad things to us? How did there souls get to the next level? If there not souls, what are they? I was under the perception that level 1 type dimensions or planets because of "Purity" cannot exist. You say our souls cannot go to the next level without understanding love, etc. So how did these beings or creatures get the upper hand on us in a catch 22? We cannot do these things, but they can? How did they get to the next level knowing what they know and doing opposite behaviour on this level? Thanks, Trevor
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Post by double92134 on Sept 1, 2009 8:41:52 GMT -5
Lou is taking an indefinite coffee break from this forum, but that is a great question!
Lou has mentioned that renegades only exist in lower level planets like Earth and a few notches up from here only because they are still in demand by our 'bad' souls. Just because they are more advanced technology wise does not make them more advanced souls. Technology has been given to them because they serve a purpose - because they are still in demand by 'bad' souls and their purpose is to harvest all the evil inside and bring it out.
But Lou has stated that after a few notches up from Earth, renegades don't exist and its all 100% pure delight.
-Sanch
Sanch,
Understand where your answer comes from and it could be true, but it goes against what he has stated. In his own words from the interview on Veritas, this is not possible. If you are not pure, you do not move up. And he was very stern about this even after a second question on the topic. If your agenda is evil, or third or lower dimension mind, you cannot move up. So how did these alleged entities move to the 4th or maybe 5th density. It's a real sticky situation, and it doesn't work from how he described it. I like Lou's work, but I believe just like most government agencies, everyone is compartmentalized and only knows a certain percentage, therefore, I like alot of his ideas, but you must always keep the filters on and sift out the questionable statements. All in all, I like Lou's work and hope most of it comes to us here on earth soon! Be well.
Trevor
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Post by Azrael on Sept 1, 2009 15:30:28 GMT -5
Lou is taking an indefinite coffee break from this forum, but that is a great question! Lou has mentioned that renegades only exist in lower level planets like Earth and a few notches up from here only because they are still in demand by our 'bad' souls. Just because they are more advanced technology wise does not make them more advanced souls. Technology has been given to them because they serve a purpose - because they are still in demand by 'bad' souls and their purpose is to harvest all the evil inside and bring it out. But Lou has stated that after a few notches up from Earth, renegades don't exist and its all 100% pure delight. -Sanch Sanch, Understand where your answer comes from and it could be true, but it goes against what he has stated. In his own words from the interview on Veritas, this is not possible. If you are not pure, you do not move up. And he was very stern about this even after a second question on the topic. If your agenda is evil, or third or lower dimension mind, you cannot move up. So how did these alleged entities move to the 4th or maybe 5th density. It's a real sticky situation, and it doesn't work from how he described it. I like Lou's work, but I believe just like most government agencies, everyone is compartmentalized and only knows a certain percentage, therefore, I like alot of his ideas, but you must always keep the filters on and sift out the questionable statements. All in all, I like Lou's work and hope most of it comes to us here on earth soon! Be well. Trevor he has stated that in 3-D land (at least) evil beings exist and can "infest". But he has also said they can beg and steal and use violence to get there hands on advanced technology not so different then the bad 3rd world countries on our planet. Good is judged through evil in 3D land, events and wars on this planet and others are stages to see how people both good and evil react to those situations thats what WW2 was and the real starwars that Lou has talked about where his "friend ET's" defeated the real darth vader and its empire. Once you prove your mettle you move on to a plane or dimension that evil doesnt exist in. Lou has used the phrase sting operation, its easy to do the right thing when you arent tempted but when you are thats when your decisions get difficult and they find out what your really made of. Really I think 3-D land is just one big game, only the stakes are huge.
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