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Post by noface on Jan 15, 2010 15:13:50 GMT -5
Indecent Proposal: Woody Harrelson, Robert Redford, and Demi Moore A perfect example of this emotion at work. I've never watched it. Now that I'm not in a relationship I could probably view it more objectively. I'll check it out.
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Post by noface on Jan 16, 2010 4:48:46 GMT -5
Hi noface,Darwinian survival of the fittest or whatever anyone chooses to call it, I think when it comes to most human instincts, reactions, emotions, actions and feelings it’s mostly based upon the brain wired programs or preloaded software like Lou puts it that just comes along with the human mind/body. But I also believe that things are learned depending on race, culture, religion, education, environment, upbringing. Hi jedi, To make a long story short, I've come to the conclusion that everything is as it should be.
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Post by noface on Jan 16, 2010 12:31:29 GMT -5
We would have to make the decisions somewhere at least once, well at least the one’s that are within our power and freedom to make that is. Such as maybe avoiding hate, greed, envy and living our lives with integrity and love. What do you think? Yeah, I think we have the freewill to do the right thing and determine our attitude in any given situation. Whether all of our thoughts, emotions, decisions, or situations are already predetermined doesn't really matter because we still have to go through the process as if we are actually making those decisions. So, we still have to decide to do the right thing and live with integrity whether we actually have the freewill to make those decisions or not. Maybe another aspect of freewill would be that we have the capacity to be content happy observers of the entire karmic body/mind entity that we think we are, rather than being caught up in the personal ownership and drama of it all.
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Post by frami12 on Jan 17, 2010 20:10:21 GMT -5
Thank You Dear Lou!
You are Right! All the time we forget the basics! Life is not what we think, even death! Suffering and pain distort our feelings and thinking!
Frami
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Post by Lou on Jan 19, 2010 9:11:05 GMT -5
Thank You Dear Lou! You are Right! All the time we forget the basics! Life is not what we think, even death! Suffering and pain distort our feelings and thinking! Frami Hi Frami, If people only knew that most of life is simply a speed trap, they might slow down and enjoy the show.
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Post by Lou on Jan 19, 2010 9:24:08 GMT -5
Hi Lou, When we say it's ok to have sex with those we love are there other reasons as well for having sex sometimes? Hi jedi, There are hidden from us reasons. Yes but I can't kiss and tell. ;D I did know them from the past present and future. There is always unmentionables in that department. Love is always part of the equation, even when we are not aware of it. In the mindset of most humans that doesn't ever really happen now does it. LOL Sex is a spiritual thing regardless that it has and is dragged through the mud by those who fear it. The reason sex feels dirty to humans is because our bodies are made of dirt, well dust. ;D
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Post by Lou on Jan 25, 2010 11:34:53 GMT -5
Hi Lou, A few more sex questions. You mentioned that orgasms take place in higher dimensions, does that mean when having sex we actually visit higher dimensions in the physical sense or is it something else? Hi jedi, It's a simple brain chemical reaction. We couldn't handle the real thing on this level of existence. ;D Access sometimes, own them and bring them back, no. At this level few souls are mature enough to handle more than one, and many can't even handle one relationship. Moving up or down has little to do with sex or number of partners, messing up people's lives with careless and egotistical behavior does. Sexual orientation is software installed by higher ups, we humans have little to do with it once we are on this end. Some/many get to choose their sex orientation before they come to Earth. For some lol but for others having children is a huge gift, reward. No
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Acrimonious
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In Maya's grip illusion transforms verity. Perceiving thus a delusive world of duality.
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Post by Acrimonious on Jan 31, 2010 1:21:55 GMT -5
My conclusion is that sex is completely awesome. That is all.
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Post by willy42 on Feb 7, 2010 6:53:00 GMT -5
My conclusion is that sex is completely awesome. That is all. Boy howdy, there's no room to argue with that. Amore to all! Hi Lou good to see you, its been a while... Well, reletively speaking:')
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Post by InCause on Feb 17, 2010 8:13:15 GMT -5
Hi Sleeper...thanks for all.!! This is my first posting to this site. Where have I been!! LOL
You mentioned.. "Women are "valuing" and promoting the wrong qualities because they themselves don't have integrity. It's easier to be entertained and lied to by the bad boy than face the truth of themselves with the good guy who won't lie to them, or entertain them with a false identity. "
I have been thinking/working on being and living authentically in truth with myself and others and to act with integrity in this world. I have thought so much on the subject not to be trapped in conditioned belief systems around these issues amongst others. I am so aware of our tribal learnings, impact of religion, and the what societies define along our journey and the attachment it forms in our very thinking, so much so that any new opinion I might want to instill in my life of any sort, might still be a trapping I need to free myself from. So this statement and a few others you made around integrity come as no surprise. I also believe that my journey here is in a way a selfish one, if one can define it so, in sofar as learning more about love compassion, forgiveness, understanding etc of myself, in order to be able to reflect that to others authentically without playing the popular game most do, which is behavior to fit in and be liked. How can we do love and the others if we are void of those feelings for ourselves. I think our understanding on these issues are mostly distorted. I can say for the most, that life does not appreciate authenticity, and truth and its a day by day struggle this learning. My question to you is what is your understanding of integrity.
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Post by noface on Feb 18, 2010 0:14:58 GMT -5
You mentioned.. "Women are "valuing" and promoting the wrong qualities because they themselves don't have integrity. It's easier to be entertained and lied to by the bad boy than face the truth of themselves with the good guy who won't lie to them, or entertain them with a false identity. " Hi InCase, Lou didn't say that. I did.
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Post by InCause on Feb 18, 2010 1:04:10 GMT -5
You mentioned.. "Women are "valuing" and promoting the wrong qualities because they themselves don't have integrity. It's easier to be entertained and lied to by the bad boy than face the truth of themselves with the good guy who won't lie to them, or entertain them with a false identity. " Hi InCase, Lou didn't say that. I did. Hi Noface Sorry, yes you did.
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Post by Lou on Feb 18, 2010 10:59:54 GMT -5
Hi Sleeper...thanks for all.!! This is my first posting to this site. Where have I been!! LOL I also believe that my journey here is in a way a selfish one, if one can define it so, in sofar as learning more about love compassion, forgiveness, understanding etc of myself, in order to be able to reflect that to others authentically without playing the popular game most do, which is behavior to fit in and be liked. How can we do love and the others if we are void of those feelings for ourselves. Hi incause, Exactly, life is a selfish gift because we reap the rewards when we play fair. We don't always think we do but in the final score we do. Whatever we do plant good seeds and hope for the best. The stage props of life are meant to distort reality in order to test our resolve. Or speed trap us. When a situation we encounter doesn't seem fair to us, we are on coarse for a speed trap. If this life were easy or a slam dunk then you would be here on vacation. Most on Earth are not on vacation. Integrity is what you value most in others when they are dealing with you or your loved ones. What do you expect from a baby sitter? Your doctor? Your Boss? The politician you voted for? That invisible stuff we expect from others is what integrity is. When we do on to others "better" than they would ever do on to us we are over the top when it comes to integrity. Yeah I know not many takers on that one because the return on the emotional investment doesn't seem worth the trouble. ;D
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Post by InCause on Feb 19, 2010 10:28:36 GMT -5
Integrity is what you value most in others when they are dealing with you or your loved ones. What do you expect from a baby sitter? Your doctor? Your Boss? The politician you voted for? That invisible stuff we expect from others is what integrity is. When we do on to others "better" than they would ever do on to us we are over the top when it comes to integrity. le. ;D That makes so much sense turning the value measure around, i.e to expect ones own measure, ...the old do unto others as ... story ...!! Much easier to value/measure I would say!! One point though...we all see and perceive things differently, so expecting what we think another would be happy with, in a given situation or expect from us based on what we would expect from them in the situation, will often come up short, not true. That being so it means that we are again in the selfish (pursuit of self discovery and growth) game of life. (here to learn our own stuff) As long as we do what in our mind appears best, even if other's perceptions differ from what I am doing, and...although our perception of any given situation might change in a week. This remains then the best measure of our higher intention in 3D land in that moment, hence the outcome of our actions is only for our own individual learning (The feedback or not, we receive after our actions, if we get feedback, measures true with our intention, if not it creates more understanding etc. and the "perception" post might need a little adjusting, and so we become more aware for next time) The positive effect is that our actions will therefore be in check, as far as integrity is concerned, because we acted with best intention in the given moment, even if it was done with a limited awareness as will be the case day by day as we grow in our level of awareness . Do you agree ? Further, I believe in being a good friend among many things, is to be someone who is honest about how they feel in a situation and I give feedback no matter if it might sound like judgment or not, which might lead the other party into potential effect or personal conflict. (even when its done with love). I believe thats an aspect of integrity but from experience I know people and life do not deal well with feedback. So to come back to your point: I must in a situation expect to do that (give the feedback, do my standards) because its what I would expect from them. Right? My result is that those that do not have a healthy EQ invariably go into effect. I have to end up explaining that there is no judgment that its communication to build our relationship and eventually all is great. I know at this point you mentioned our entigrity will be over the top if we do more than what we would expect from others. This point poses a paradox: How can one do to others the same you would expect from them if done to you, yet be out of integrity if you do more than what you would expect from them. I cant expect my standards from most (please humbly meant), so what now !! I hope I have explained this clearly ? Does your point still mean that my actions are in check with integrity ?
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Post by Lou on Feb 24, 2010 12:55:45 GMT -5
One point though...we all see and perceive things differently, so expecting what we think another would be happy with, in a given situation or expect from us based on what we would expect from them in the situation, will often come up short, not true. That being so it means that we are again in the selfish (pursuit of self discovery and growth) game of life. (here to learn our own stuff) As long as we do what in our mind appears best, even if other's perceptions differ from what I am doing, and...although our perception of any given situation might change in a week. This remains then the best measure of our higher intention in 3D land in that moment, hence the outcome of our actions is only for our own individual learning (The feedback or not, we receive after our actions, if we get feedback, measures true with our intention, if not it creates more understanding etc. and the "perception" post might need a little adjusting, and so we become more aware for next time) The positive effect is that our actions will therefore be in check, as far as integrity is concerned, because we acted with best intention in the given moment, even if it was done with a limited awareness as will be the case day by day as we grow in our level of awareness . Do you agree ? I agree, but it is the higher ups who can read the fine print in all our intentions, a gift "no one" on Earth has. Feedback is a mine field because most of us like giving it and most of us hate receiving it. ;D The paradox increases the less we understand. The challenge is not how we deal with others but how we deal with ourselves. I could give someone my last loaf of bread thinking that the gods will then reward me with two loaves of bread, but while doing so the person I gave the loaf of bread to throws it back in my face, for whatever reason. ;D Dang if you do, dang if you don't and then dang with the whole dam thing! ;D why even try! When chasing after absolutions they often turn around and bite us. How we deal with the bite gets us nearer to what we are made of.
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