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Post by bob on Feb 15, 2010 22:00:40 GMT -5
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Post by Izarith on Feb 16, 2010 7:34:00 GMT -5
Hey Bob, How have ya been? ;D I'm going to ask you this because your a total guru. In D&D they have several alignments for the character you make. Chaotic Good, Good, Chaotic Neutral, Neutral, chaotic Evil and Evil. I always liked to play, Chaotic good or Chaotic Neutral characters. They were pretty much the only things I could play much to the distress of the other players LOL. (If there is another D&D nerd on this forum, I'm not LOLing alone ) My question is, if a person is completely selfless doesn't that make him a bit neutral? I have a hard time understanding how selflessness. On the one had it sounds good and I get it but on the other I can't help but think that if I was selfless I would not care to do anything.
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Post by bob on Feb 16, 2010 19:34:31 GMT -5
I can't help but think that if I was selfless I would not care to do anything. Hiya Iz! In true selflessness, “caring” does not apply. There is just doing or not doing. The personal attribution is absent. Individual will and cosmic will are not two. Just so, what needs doing gets done. What doesn’t, doesn’t. It’s all very simple. Only the superimposition of some personal stake in the whole affair creates the ensuing complications. Can you see how selflessness is our actual condition, and all the chronic selfishness we parade across the stage is more of a clumsy affectation, like an adolescent phase that embarrasses the rest of the family? We try a lot of costumes on -- this realm is filled with endless possibilities of the masquerade experience, but whenever we stop and fixate on any of it, fabricating self-images around it, we’re setting ourselves up for a rectal-cranial inversion. Blessings!
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Post by muse on Feb 16, 2010 23:49:26 GMT -5
Hey Bob, Izzy,
OR....don't believe anything you say or think to yourself.
Works for me.
Most all thoughts are past/future stories.
It is more than being in the "NOW".....it is something else....
Hmmmm....I'm way out of my and not ready for prime time....
My biography title...Get up in the balcony....and watch the show...I still phase in and out of watching and being on stage.
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Post by bob on Feb 17, 2010 1:38:48 GMT -5
Hey Bob, Izzy, OR....don't believe anything you say or think to yourself. Works for me. Most all thoughts are past/future stories. It is more than being in the "NOW".....it is something else.... Hmmmm....I'm way out of my and not ready for prime time.... My biography title...Get up in the balcony....and watch the show...I still phase in and out of watching and being on stage. "Any form whatsoever that is past, future, or present; internal or external; blatant or subtle; common or sublime; far or near: every form is to be seen as it actually is with right discernment as: 'This is not mine. This is not my self. This is not what I am.' Any feeling whatsoever... Any perception whatsoever... Any fabrications whatsoever... Any consciousness whatsoever that is past, future, or present; internal or external; blatant or subtle; common or sublime; far or near: every consciousness is to be seen as it actually is with right discernment as: 'This is not mine. This is not my self. This is not what I am.'" ~Buddha Anatta-lakkhana Sutta Blessings!
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Post by Izarith on Feb 17, 2010 6:26:24 GMT -5
Can you see how selflessness is our actual condition, and all the chronic selfishness we parade across the stage is more of a clumsy affectation, like an adolescent phase that embarrasses the rest of the family? Blessings! ROFL!! Yes, I can see how Bob. I just can't help but notice the irony in your question. ;D I did start off with an Example of D&D after all. Rectal-cranial inversion, that means stuck in my head right? If So it's funny you should say this because just the other day I was thinking I needed to dump all my thoughts down the drain. I've always been a guy who literally spends more time talking to myself than other people. One time i scared the crap out of myself because I was driving my cab talking to myself as usual and I turned around and realised I had a full load of passengers in my back seat LOL. In my defence I will add it was a long quiet ride, I just forgot they were there. Back then it did not matter at all, people were just glad I spoke English and did not smell like a goat but now i have a so called real job and I forget so many things due to my hour long self discussions on subjects like, why saying "I believe in God" means your actually an atheist. I'm thinking of taking up meditation. Thanks Bob.
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Post by tommyknockers on Feb 17, 2010 8:17:42 GMT -5
Any feeling whatsoever... Any perception whatsoever... Any fabrications whatsoever... Whoo Hoo. Sounds like a great way to scoot responsibility Bob. Bring on the wine and the women!
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Post by bob on Feb 17, 2010 13:43:18 GMT -5
Any feeling whatsoever... Any perception whatsoever... Any fabrications whatsoever... Whoo Hoo. Sounds like a great way to scoot responsibility Bob. Bring on the wine and the women! Hiya Tommy! In context, Buddha was addressing folks who already had mastered the Eightfold Path (such as morality, etc), and were relatively free from envy, greed, hatred, and such, were living with full integrity, and were thus prepared to get the real scoop about how things truly are. Same with Advaita Vedanta teachings within Hinduism, which were kept secret until the yoga aspirants were mature enough in their spiritual development to handle the implications of such knowledge. Blessings!
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Post by bob on Feb 17, 2010 13:52:21 GMT -5
....just the other day I was thinking I needed to dump all my thoughts down the drain. "When someone claims to see demons, we may talk of emptiness, yet the phenomena are there. Don't destroy the myths of common people; only teach the cessation of thoughts. When thoughts are gone, mind is abolished. When mind is gone, action is terminated. No need to confirm emptiness -- naturally, there is clear comprehension. Completely seeing through birth and death, the profound mind enters the Principle. Opening your eyes and seeing forms, mind is born in accord with the scene. Within mind there is no scene; within the scene there is no mind. Use mind to abolish the scene and both will be disturbed. With mind still and scene as it is, not avoiding, not grasping, mind and scene vanish together. When neither arise, there is rest. The reflection of Truth shines in the immaculate pool of mind." from "Song of Mind" ~Niu Tou Fa Jong (594-657) Blessings!
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