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Post by Izarith on Feb 7, 2010 22:02:42 GMT -5
I don't think integrity can be practiced, I don't think we can augment it. I think we all have it, we have all shown it. It is our true selves saying "this is as far as you go, this is who you are". If integrity is real than integrity just is.... Hi Izzy, you said "If integrity is real than integrity just is....". That may be so, but it is up to us to discriminate what integrity is and align ourselves, our actions and our decisions with that. Just as you mentioned in your gnosticism post about those who are awakening are those who are at least attempting to honestly understand what the intentions are behind the things they do and then do the right thing accordingly. What do you think? I think that's absolutely right Fishy, Integrity is, that's it. It's up to us to discover it. It's like discovering your conscious, you need the down to know the up. Once you know, then you can chose, once you chose comes the understanding of why you made that choice. Once you understand why you made the choice you gain knowledge of who you are. Don't believe you can, know you can. ;D
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Post by noface on Feb 7, 2010 22:36:17 GMT -5
Integrity is, that's it. It's up to us to discover it. It's like discovering your conscious, you need the down to know the up. Once you know, then you can chose, once you chose comes the understanding of why you made that choice. Once you understand why you made the choice you gain knowledge of who you are. Hi Izzy, I'm not so sure about that. Does a guy have to eat shit to know that he loves ice cream?
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Post by Izarith on Feb 7, 2010 23:00:52 GMT -5
Integrity is, that's it. It's up to us to discover it. It's like discovering your conscious, you need the down to know the up. Once you know, then you can chose, once you chose comes the understanding of why you made that choice. Once you understand why you made the choice you gain knowledge of who you are. Hi Izzy, I'm not so sure about that. Does a guy have to eat shit to know that he loves ice cream? LOL! No not at all. ;D We can believe that shit taste worse than ice cream or we can know. From what I can tell we live a long, long time in very different situations. I imagine that if hungry enough a nice big pile of shit could be the greatest tasting thing on Earth. Where does that leave your love of ice cream?
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Post by Izarith on Feb 7, 2010 23:07:59 GMT -5
Jedi, Drop the subject. Please let it go. Thanks for all your hard work, it's much appreciated. But you continuing on about it sucks the life out of it. Lets just look forward to the interview.
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Post by noface on Feb 8, 2010 0:17:55 GMT -5
We can believe that shit taste worse than ice cream or we can know. From what I can tell we live a long, long time in very different situations. That's not a bad point. At least you would know for absolute certain that shit ain't as good ice cream. There would be no going back, hopefully. Isn't that what the "Dark Side" does? When people are hungry renegades see if people can be tempted by some shit. The person knows it's poison and not very enjoyable to boot. Even when they are eating it a person knows it's shit. But when they resist the temptation of the renegades and hold out for ice cream and finally get it they love it through and through, right down to their bones. Ahhh, I just made that shit up. ;D
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Post by Izarith on Feb 8, 2010 2:18:15 GMT -5
That's not a bad point. At least you would know for absolute certain that shit ain't as good ice cream. There would be no going back, hopefully. Yeah that's the point, eventually you can just tell something is shit by it's smell. Yes that is what the darkside does.... The only thing is that the dark side does not call it shit....it calls it ice cream. ;D That's what this world is, it's 31 different flavors of complete shit, we are here to see which flavor makes us go "yummmmy nummmy, I love sherbet, mocha, cocholate chip!". One of the reasons I like sleeper's info so much is mostly because it's a mystery. On the one hand he knows all this great info about us, but on the other it's too offensive to talk about lol. All he has told us is that 1.) we are renegades 2.) we are here because of that 3.) this place is hell. In a world were everyone is selling ice cream, I'll take the shit from Sleeper LOL. And just between you and me.....I like it.....Yummmy, Nummy!
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Post by noface on Feb 8, 2010 3:02:41 GMT -5
Yes that is what the darkside does.... The only thing is that the dark side does not call it shit....it calls it ice cream. ;D Clever. ;D My point was that it is good to be able to tell the difference between shit and ice cream, which is hard sometimes. Especially when you are hungry. That's such a disturbing picture. ;D
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Post by Izarith on Feb 8, 2010 3:12:30 GMT -5
LOL! Poor Sleeper. In just two posts we have tuned him into an ignorant shit dish-er. That should slap his coffee breaking butt out of his catatonic state. ;D It's all in good fun Sleeper don't go disappearing now.
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Post by Izarith on Feb 8, 2010 3:16:07 GMT -5
That's such a disturbing picture. ;D What you haven't seen "Two Forum Members and One Cup"? Umm....neither have I.
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Post by noface on Feb 8, 2010 10:36:45 GMT -5
Nope. There are some things I'm glad I have never seen.
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Post by siriusdrummer on Feb 10, 2010 12:12:15 GMT -5
Integrity, Recently i showed integrity by burning a bunch of blank cd's of my favorite music to a young friend of mine,, without even saying hey man this will cost ya,, blank cd's are not cheap. But i didnt say anything because i felt in my heart that i didnt need to really i was happy to give him the music that i enjoy and love. didnt even get a thank you. but thats ok., Their are alot of good deeds i have done and alot of other bad things as well. Integrity to me is doing the right thing, even when no one is looking. Clifford e Stone once said "The greatest thing you can ever be is a servant, helping other people is what truly matters." I really feel his feeling on that,, i mean its hard to explain its like a real deep pure sacrifice inside you that u cant explain, its like christ conciouness , u feel emotional and sensitive. ... eh mmmm lol anyways sleepers words helped me figure out alot of stuff in my life. Takecare all
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Post by InCause on Feb 17, 2010 12:38:03 GMT -5
This is interesting. I am new here and posted earlier to ask this question to Lou on his questions and comments page. I have only now discovered this page. Well ..here is my 0.02 worth ( and thats really little because I am in South Africa and R0.02 here is around 0.002 US )lol
I have been working with this issue for a few years now and sofar all that has changed is the goal posts in my mind. Seems the more I learn the less I know about this issue. What has been uppermost for me, was that integrity is being true to yourself in the moment in every situation. Not to break promises to ourselves or others, because when we do, it shows a lack of self respect. A lack of self respect means we can not fully respect another. If we do break a promise, thats ok, but to amend this with interest to whoever asp. To be truthful in what we say, how we say it, before we bark it out. That shows we mean what we say. Also every word spoken is out there with energy and has impact forever. Not to be a verbal noise polluter, especially when it comes to expressing our noisy and often irrelevant thoughts. Is doing what you feel intuitively in a situation will have positive impact. Too many wait for others to act. To act in situations no matter the fear that boils up within us at times. To love those around us enough so we may be honest with them when they need our honesty and feedback that means to be a true friend, father, mother, boss. In the face of shame or humilation or fault, if this is so, to stand up to be counted and to make amends, to get your self respect in check again. Not to be proud and arrogant and stay in the need of our rightness. Listen more and talk less. To be able to really be interested in what others say, without playing the games we do to be popular.
That for now!
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Post by skyhippie on Mar 11, 2010 10:13:58 GMT -5
I want to share, that I have been treated very good on earth, I think I am a god. I will find out I am less than nothing, but I'd only say that to get girls. I'm a deadhead. I'm convinced the "grateful dead" abducted me after convincing me to do enough lsd, crucified me as their christ, and made history out of me. John, you are not a good man.
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Post by grant on Mar 11, 2010 12:45:54 GMT -5
Good posts guys. I have to say this page is a bit "distracting", what with Izzy´s and noface´s splurt on shit and icecream LOL . I still don’t know where I am on the integrity front. At the moment (and for the last few months) I have had too many voices in my head to really say if I’m leading life with integrity (it’s as if I’m trying too hard, and thus missing the point). Over analysing everything – I wish I could just relax…. That moment when you do a good something without even thinking, sometimes I hope it’s a reflection of where my soul is really at.
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Post by johnlear on Mar 11, 2010 13:45:29 GMT -5
John, you are not a good man. Skyhippie many feel as you do about me. Bless you my friend.
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